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Ed Malmgren <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 30 Apr 2011 21:31:39 -0600
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Steve, I wonder what kind of socket that 6u3k plugged into?  six or eight 
pin enquiring minds want to know
Ed  K7UC
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: Dumbing down, was Re: Selling Gear Online


> Ron,
>
> We played a similar code game to foil our housemothers at the school for 
> the
> blind in Connecticut.  We assigned numeric values to letters A through J,
> and mixed the numbers with the rest of the alphabet to make words we 
> weren't
> supposed to say.  For example: 41mn was damn, etc.  I particularly liked
> 29t38, which sounded like some sort of airplane model number, and 6u3k 
> which
> sounded like a tube designation.  It drove the housemothers nuts--they 
> knew
> we were up to something but they couldn't figure out what.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Canazzi" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 20:44
> Subject: Re: Dumbing down, was Re: Selling Gear Online
>
>
>> Hi Group,
>>
>> I couldn't resist in chiming in here.  I and a few blind friends used to
>> use
>> code of a sort.  For laughs and giggles, we used to get on a local
>> repeater
>> and communicate in 'Braille' code.  Yes that's right; 'Braille code.'
>> When
>> we knew a bunch of folks could be listening and when the repeater was not
>> in
>> use, we would get on the repeater and say to one another: 'OK switch to
>> Braille Mode.'  Then we would key up and start reciting messages in
>> 'Braille' code by giving cell dot positions as in:
>> '6 <small pause> 1-2-5 <small pause> 2-4 <larger pause> 6 <small pause>
>> 2-4-5 <small pause> 1-3-5 <small pause> 1-5 <larger pause> 6 <small 
>> pause>
>> 1-5-6 <small pause> 1 <small pause> 2-3-4-5 <small pause> 3 <small pause>
>> 2-3-4 <larger pause> 1-3-6 <small pause> 1-2-3-4 <small pause > 2-3-6
>> <un-key>'
>> [which being interpreted is simply: 'Hi Joe What's up?']
>>
>> Boy that would drive some folks nuts.  Now every 5 minutes or so we would
>> identify normally.  People used to ask us what we were doing and we said
>> we
>> were using code.  They said 'that's not International Morse Code and it's
>> illegal' to which we would say 'no it's not a secret code; it's Braille
>> code. and we announce it as such'    We did that just a few times--since
>> there were a bunch of old crotch breaths that used to ramble on about how
>> evil things had gotten since they reduced (and then eliminated later) the
>> code requirements and all those no good CB-ers were now on 2 meters.
>>
>> Actually, there was nothing illegal at all with what we were doing--since
>> the FCC rules state that only secret codes were impermissible.  I wonder
>> if
>> the old farts ever got the message that we were simply spoofing them; 
>> they
>> wanted code so we gave them code--a standard non-secret recognizable
>> code--that if anyone cared to look up the meaning, they could have
>> recorded
>> it and played it back and with reasonable ease could have deciphered it.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 8:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: Dumbing down, was Re: Selling Gear Online
>>
>>
>> I know a few people who have just got the interest in CW out of nowhere
>> and
>> started playing around with it.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Lou Kolb" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 6:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: Dumbing down, was Re: Selling Gear Online
>>
>>
>>> Some clubs have actually reported an increased interest in CW now that
>>> it's
>>> not manditory.  Speaking as some one who operates it a lot and for whom
>>> it's
>>> my favorite mode, I hope that's not just wishful thinking.  Sure it's
>>> outmoded by other digital modes but it sure is a fun and relaxing skill
>>> to
>>> exercise.  Lou WA3MIX
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Dumbing down, was Re: Selling Gear Online
>>>
>>>
>>>> Buddy,
>>>>
>>>> Despite the no-code license, there seems to be a die-hard bunch of
>>>> devoted
>>>> CW operators.  If we want to look at why ham radio is dying (and I 
>>>> think
>>>> it
>>>> is to some extent), it's because there are so many other ways to
>>>> communicate--cell phones and the Internet, for example.  All that said,
>>>> though, people seem to find ways to enjoy the hobby if they're truly
>>>> interested.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Buddy Brannan" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 16:26
>>>> Subject: Dumbing down, was Re: Selling Gear Online
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Oh boy, here we go. So, passing a code test pases on interest in hf? =
>>>>> That's a bit convoluted. I agree that the tests have gotten easier. I 
>>>>> =
>>>>> was also one of the first to get up in arms when we got our first =
>>>>> codeless license. I was, however, also one of the first to admit that 
>>>>> I
>>>>> =
>>>>> was wrong about the codeless tech brnging an end to my beloved hobby. 
>>>>> =
>>>>> The hobby's been dying now since the introduction of the Novice 
>>>>> license
>>>>> =
>>>>> in 1951, if not before. And it's still alive and well. You don't think
>>>>> =
>>>>> the difficulty in erecting hf antennas, owing to cc&r's and HOA's,
>>>>> might
>>>>> =
>>>>> not have something to do with the seemling lack of interest in HF
>>>>> gear?=20=
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I, for one, have observed that when people talk about "dumbing down", 
>>>>> =
>>>>> what that really means is "Things aren't the same as they were back =
>>>>> in*my(*day." Believe me, I can be as curmudgeonly as the next guy. I =
>>>>> didn't dub myself "the world's youngest old fart" years ago for
>>>>> nothing,
>>>>> =
>>>>> you know. But change is inevitable. Roll with it.=20
>>>>>
>>>>> And, more to the point, has anyone else noticed that the people who =
>>>>> often holler the loudest about how the tests are dumbed down and we =
>>>>> should still have a code requirement, aren't cw ops? Interesting.=20
>>>>> --
>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 30, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve, unfortunately we're seeing the result of the no code and =
>>>>> dumbing down of
>>>>>> the tests.  Now we've got a bunch of techs that are only interested 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> =
>>>>> 2m
>>>>>> repeaters.  I'd think that online selling of gear would be fairly 
>>>>>> easy
>>>>>> =
>>>>> either
>>>>>> through Ebay or even through this list or sales lists run by sites =
>>>>> such as QRZ
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Tom Brennan  KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
>>>>>> web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, Steve Matzura wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 14:56:01 -0400
>>>>>>> From: Steve Matzura <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> Reply-To: For blind ham radio operators =
>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> Subject: Selling Gear Online
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Where's the best place to go to put some gear for sale online? =
>>>>> Someone
>>>>>>> I know has a relative who's giving up the hobby because they'll be
>>>>>>> moving into an assisted living facility and will have no space or
>>>>>>> other wherewithal to work the hobby other than via either a handheld
>>>>>>> or a mobile rig with a magmount out the window. I'm told he have =
>>>>> quite
>>>>>>> a modern HF station, but have no specifics as to what gear is =
>>>>> actually
>>>>>>> involved. Funny thing, the ham wanted to donate it to a local club 
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> school, but the few takers he could find were only interested in
>>>>>>> VHF/UHF gear. Any recommendations greatly appreciated and will be
>>>>>>> passed along.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>
>> 

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