This Pat has had nothing to do with this discussion.  Is there 
something in the water, or the recent full moon?  This is the third 
list I am a part of that has gone bonkers in the last few 
days.  Everyone ease up, for God's sake.
Pat, K9JAU
At 02:42 PM 6/6/2012, you wrote:
>Hi Pat,
>I'm not leaving, Ed!
>There is someone who is on this list, very well known, who thinks the =
>same way that I do, and I'll let him identify himself, if he chooses to!
>I'm tired of hearing hams tlak like cbers. Hams need to talk the talk, =
>the correct talk.  This hobby has gone to hell in a hand basket!
>We've got hams, who should know better, doing things on hf that I'd =
>never do, whistling, keying up on people, you name it!
>This hobby is not the ham radio I use to know.
>The operating skills of many hams, are absolutely attrocious.
>73,
>Trippy, ac8s
>   ----- Original Message -----=20
>   From: Ed Malmgren=20
>   To: [log in to unmask]
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 2:49 PM
>   Subject: Fw: License Renewal?
>
>
>   Hey Tricky, if you don't like what goes on here, move on, I doubt =
>anyone=20
>   will miss your bull.  73
>   Ed   K7UC
>
>   --------------------------------------------------
>   From: "Harry Brown" <[log in to unmask]>
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 12:38 PM
>   To: <[log in to unmask]>
>   Subject: Re: License Renewal?
>
>   > HI all,
>   > Please, can we stop with the 73's?
>   > We're suppose to be hams here, not chicken banders.
>   > I'm not alone, when it comes to that, either.
>   > A very well known ham, nationally, has this pet peeve as well, and I =
>=3D
>   > also do.
>   > This is not cb, this is ham radio, and if you're gonna be a ham, =
>talk =3D
>   > the talk!
>   > 73,
>   > Trippy, ac8s
>   >  ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>   >  From: Howard, W A 9 Y B W=3D20
>   >  To: [log in to unmask]
>   >  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 8:38 AM
>   >  Subject: License Renewal?
>   >
>   >
>   >  Hi Howard,
>   >
>   >  This is Howard #3.
>   >
>   >  About 4 years ago I renewed my license on the FCC website and I =
>didn't =3D
>   > =3D3D
>   >  have=3D3D20
>   >  any trouble.  There site is very accessible.
>   >
>   >  Before you can use their Universal Licensing System, you need to =
>get =3D
>   > an =3D3D
>   >  ID=3D3D20
>   >  number from them.  This also can be done online and the number will =
>=3D
>   > be=3D3D20
>   >  e-mailed to you immediately.
>   >
>   >  If you are reasonably proficient at filling out forms online, this =
>=3D
>   > whole =3D3D
>   >
>   >  process can be completed in less than half an hour at most.
>   >
>   >  On a scale of 1 (easy) to 10 (hard) this exercise  is about a 3 in =
>=3D
>   > my=3D3D20
>   >  opinion.
>   >
>   >  The hardest thing is to figure out what website to go to.
>   >
>   >  If anyone is interested, I will look up the address and post it =
>here.
>   >
>   >  If you are able to get an Amateur license than you are smart enough =
>to =3D
>   > =3D3D
>   >  renew=3D3D20
>   >  it independently.
>   >
>   >  73's
>   >
>   >  Howard #3, W A 9 Y B W