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Mark WZ0K <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 17 Oct 2013 18:02:23 -0500
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Hi Tom Behler:
     I agree with you about the optimism. At one point in history, there was 
no national library service, talking books, talking computers, and not even 
braille. So, the life of blind people over all is much better than it was 
just a few hundred years ago. I am grateful for that.



God bless,
Mark and my beautiful wife Noella
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:50 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [bardtalk] Presidential Proclamation -- Blind AmericansEquality 
Day, 2013

Well, Pat, I think it depends.  I also believe that everyone's situation is
at least somewhat unique for better or worse.

I got all of my various jobs on my own, but it was definitely not easy in
any sense of the word.

In fact, I can tell some real stories of undocumented discrimination to that
I experienced throughout my years of gainful employment and career
development.

So, like you, and many others on this list, I am a realist, and not naive
about what really goes on out there.

However, I've always been an optimist about these things, and hope that the
barriers to equal employment and accessibility can gradually be eroded if we
all continue to do some embasador-type work to help make it happen.

It is darn hard work, though, for reasons that we know all too well.

Tom Behler: KB8TYJ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Byrne" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [bardtalk] Presidential Proclamation -- Blind AmericansEquality
Day, 2013


> Tom,
> I've seen those proclamations before but I forget whose name they
> were over.  Nice thoughts but cynically I wonder how much has really
> changed.  i found all of my jobs, except for the one I have now prior
> to ADA - at at the Center fof Independent Living by law the majority
> of our employees and the executive board must be persons with
> disabilities.  And I know Braille, Duxbury and a few other skills
> that were important to the job so .. .
> Not sure if it is any easier out in the real job world or not.
> Pat, K9JAU 

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