You won't want to put the 4btv on a tripod, I have the 5BTV which is the 
same thing but with the 80 meter resonator on top and that's a lot of wind 
load, without the 80 meter resonator on top a bungee cord doesn't have a 
chance of holding it. Also, you need radials with that, no matter what it 
says, I did tests with mine with no radials and some bands won't even tune 
right with no radials. Really though if you can't put a good solid mast to 
mount it on, either on the building, or in the ground, no temporary mounting 
system will hold that with any breeze or light wind at all. I have heard of 
people putting the base permanently mounted and just bring the antenna in 
when not in use, I don't know if that's an option, but I'd never go any more 
temporary than that with that antenna.
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Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 9:39 PM
Subject: Fwd: Worst Case


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>> From: Michael Ryan <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: 22 November, 2012 11:06:14 PM NST
>> To: Michael Ryan <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Worst Case
>>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Let me extend a happy thanks giving to all in the United States.
>> As my antenna research continues,  If permitted, I might as well get a 
>> Hustler 4BTV, mount it on my tripod, keeping it high enough that the base 
>> of the antenna will clear the railing, how bad would it really be with 
>> out putting out a field of radials?
>> I think it might play better than some of the portables I'm considering. 
>> The Hy-gains I'm looking at are 18 feet tall while the 4BTV is 21.5. The 
>> cost is vary similar as well, 220CAN plus a 13% sales tax and about 50 or 
>> 60 for shipping for the 4BTV and Hy-gains. The properly outfitted 
>> portables I'm looking at will equal the 4BTV by the time it goes on the 
>> air. Sure I won't be able to take it down each time but maybe the Land 
>> Lord won't have a problem with it as long as its not in his way and 
>> nothing clamped to wooden railings or holes drilled in bedroom walls and 
>> such.
>> I'd mount it on my home brewed tripod and bungy cord the pod to the side 
>> of the railing inside the stairwell, with the feet resting on the 
>> concrete floor.
>> I think the idea here is to get the best compromised antenna. I like the 
>> Outreach and tripod setup but would be talking almost 500 bucks Canadian 
>> by the time I got it.  I like the Hustler Mobile resonators option but 
>> again equaling the 4BTV by the time I got it.
>> Then there's the manual band change, swapping of resonators and narrow 
>> bandwidth.  The motorized screwdrivers aren't cheap either and as for the 
>> Hy-gains, there's the manual band change, facilitated by an alligator 
>> clipped wire, moving from tap to tap.
>> Super Antenna, doesn't look like there's a contact info on the site and 
>> Vern's email address on QRZ is a dead end. So there we go. Waiting on a 
>> response from MFJ regarding the Hygains, after all that's who owns and 
>> produces the product. If don't get an answer, they might be out as well.
>> I don't like to deal with a company I can't communicate with unless it 
>> costs me 20 bucks a phone call.
>>
>> 73:
>>
>> Michael DE VO1AX
>>
>>
>>