Hi Richard,
I thought I would share with you that I have been using a HV9 ground mounted 
with many radials under it for about 12 years.
I also have added the 160 meter coil to it as well.  Now I have a 10 band 
antenna which amazingly well for being a compromising antenna.
I would like to have a better antenna but I do not have room enough for 
anything else.
From what I have observed, this antenna works better when ground mounted.
You cannot put it on a tower and have any kind of a ground under it for it 
to work against.
I have worked my share of dx with this thing as well as a lot state side.
If you have any questions, just let me hear from you.
Best 73.
Lowell  W8QIY
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:02 PM
Subject: hf verticals


> Hi;
> Still wondering which hf verticals folks have good success with and were
> moderately straight forward to assemble.  Curtis has given a vote for
> his high gain 640.  I liked the cushcraft r8 but it was very top heavy
> and didn't do well in my wind.  I'm currently doing battle with an hf9v
> and the antenna is currently winning.  I'd love to try the step ir but
> don't think it would do well roof mounted.  Also not clear as to the
> difference between the two versions.
> Finally a friend who is a retired engineer has suggested that all one
> needs to do is put up a random length pipe although 40 feet would be his
> length of choice.  No traps, no matching just a good external tuner at
> the antenna. Although I haven't talked with him directly I think there
> is someone else locally using a similar arrangement.  Back when I
> thought I knew a thing or two, I thought a tuner was basically just a
> means of tricking the radio and or amplifier into being happy but didn't
> think it increased the performance of the antenna.  Anyone else ran
> across anything similar?
>   --
> richard
>