That is funny. 

Barb K1EIR

-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Alan R. Downing
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:11 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Feedline Talk

Phil, there was a funny story about my friend that gave me the cable and
connectors.  He had won an auction on the internet of all this brand new
surplus Andrew cable and connectors.  He didn't know what it really was, so
when he won the auction, here comes an 18 wheeler full of his Andrew.  There
were 18 pallots of stuff.  Many hundreds of 7/16 DIN connectors, and
hundreds and hundreds of pre-made jumpers of half inch hardline, all with
7/16 DIN connectors on them.  The jumpers range in length from 1 meter to 30
meters.  There were 3 pallots full of 7/16 DIN connectors.  The only problem
was that he had no need for 7/16 DIN connectors.  He knew that I was putting
my station together, and that I was going to use half inch hardline, and
7/16 DIN connectors.  He called me up and said that I could have as much as
I wanted, as he really had no use for the connectors and pre-made jumpers.
I told him that I would take it all, and he laughed and said, you don't know
how much I have.  He said, I will fill a pickup truck up with the stuff, and
a friend will drop it off at your house.  So when the guy showed up, he had
maybe 75 pre-made jumpers in all of the different lengths, 700 feet of half
inch hardline, and perhaps 100 connectors.  Frankly, it was way more than I
needed, but it was free.  It was all absolutely brand new.  I called to
thank him, and he said that he still had 100 times as much as he sent to me.
I actually gave some of it away to other friends because I couldn't use all
of what he sent.



Alan R. Downing
Phoenix, AZ


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Phil Scovell
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 3:39 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Feedline Talk

Yep, Alan,

I've heard guys with long runs switch to hardline and they, too, could not 
believe the increase in DB signals.  It all ain't cheep; that's for sure.  I

talked to a guy on 75 meters one night, years ago, who  got a satellite 
tower free from the junkyard if he'd hall the 190 feet of tower away.  It 
was in perfect shape.  He was running RG17 for like over 300 feet to a 2 
element 80 meter beam.  I thought at the time if hardline still wouldn't 
have been better for that long run even for the low frequency.  Shoot, I'd 
take 700 feet of hardline if somebody gave it to me, too, haha but I'd 
insist on the connecters for free, too, haha.

Phil.
K0NX




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Feedline Talk


> Hi Phil, I just didn't want to be told by someone that discussing hardline
> is irrelevant because no one needs to use it.  Hardline is also required 
> on
> long runs.  I was speaking with a friend in Oman on skype yesterday, and 
> he
> was in the midst of replacing a 400 foot run of RG213 to 7/8 hardline on 
> his
> 40 meter circuit, and inch and 5/8 on his 20 meter 6 over 6 stack.  I was
> incredulous that anyone would use RG213 on such a long run.  I heard back
> from him today, and he couldn't believe how much better he can hear 
> stations
> now that he isn't experiencing great losses in his 213 runs.
> I had originally installed half inch Andrew from my shack to the base of 
> my
> tower because I had been given 700 feet of brand new hardline.  Then, for
> some reason that I can no longer recall, I decided that I should replace 
> the
> half inch hardline with 7/8 hardline.  My run is roughly 100 feet from my
> shack to the bottom of my tower, and that 100 foot length of 7/8, + the 
> 7/16
> DIN connectors on each end, cost me something like $800, and I couldn't 
> tell
> any difference.  If the run was for say 900 MHz or higher, there would 
> have
> been a substantial improvement, but at frequencies below 30 MHz,it 
> wouldn't
> be detectable except by high precision instrumentation.
>
>
> Alan R. Downing
> Phoenix, AZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Phil Scovell
> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 2:48 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Feedline Talk
>
> Alan,
>
> I must be weird but I find feedline discussions as interesting as antennas
> and antenna building.
>
> Phil.
> K0NX
>