and these guys accomplished exactly what they set out to.  That is, they got 
someone riled up by what they were saying.
The whole point of doing that ont he air is to get people riled and upset 
and pissed off.  It's partially to get attention and partially just for 
their own sense of entertainment.
It's like this, they feel empowered by pretending to think and believe what 
they are saying, and when they piss someone off, because that person really 
thinks they believe this stuff, they can sit back and laugh and say, oh, 
what an idiot for thinking we think that for real. It's a form of power over 
others, manipulation and causing them to think a certain way which is false. 
It makes them feel smarter and better than others.
It's stupid and petty and anoying, but that's all it is lol.
They probably got off the repeater and went back to channel 19 to harass 
people down there.
Just goes to show, anyone can get a ham license right.
Speaking of that, when you do hear suspicious stuff on the air like that, 
get call signs and check them out.  if they don't check out you can assume 
they are pirate stations and can alert others to simply ignore anything they 
might say.
But, they were probably legitimate licensed hams who just had nothing better 
to do than make inflamitory statements.
And before some old fart responds on here and says something to effect of 
what has ham radio come to and it was never like that back when I was first 
licensed, crap like this, and far worse, has been going on for many decades 
on the amateur radio bands.
Let's not forget, it is amateur radio and not professional radio, so one 
cannot expect everyone to follow some gentlemans agreement about on air 
conduct.
Take a listen to 14.313 some time, or some groups on 75 meters.  they're 
worse, and go on every single day.

73
Colin, V A6BKX
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From: "Zach Shifflett" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:20 AM
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: terrible behavior on two meter repeater: you guys won't believe 
this

> The political stuff was bad, but I was way more angry about the guys
> making fun of other opperators over the air.
> I can't imagine ever making fun of a guy on the air.  I mean, come on,
> you never know who's listening.
> Those guys probably wouldn't have made fun of other hams had they
> known I was listening, but that's the thing. You can't use public
> repeaters to make fun of people who, for all you know, have their
> radios on and tuned.
> argh.
>
> On 10/20/13, Jim Gammon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> My sympathies Zach, we have a wacko out here that just rants
>> nonsense and thank God, doesn't spout racist crap about President
>> Obama at least yet.  I am truly fearful about the direction this
>> country is taking where people just degenerate into hating people
>> because of their viewpoints.
>> We had some relatives here for a couple of weeks, and got along
>> fine, even though one of them expressed the point of view that we
>> have an idiot in the Whitehouse at present.  I bit my tongue
>> because I had felt the same way about the previous occupant.  My
>> opinion is that we, all of us, have to do whatever we can to get
>> away from the partisan  arguing to literally save our country
>> from being ripped apart because we can no longer govern ourselves
>> democratically! Well, enough said here.  Jim WA6EKS
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Zach Shifflett <[log in to unmask]
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Date sent: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 02:24:24 -0400
>> Subject: terrible behavior on two meter repeater: you guys won't
>> believe this
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Disclaimer: if you're not in the mood to read a long winded rant,
>> just
>> delete this message and I'll totally understand.  There's just
>> something that happened tonight that I have to get off my chest.
>> All right, here goes:
>> So tonight, I've been up sitting in my office reading a book with
>> my radio on.
>> There are these two guys who get on late on a local repeater most
>> weekends.
>> They're not the most likable of characters at the best of times,
>> but
>> tonight they were just completely beyond all sense of propriety.
>> First off, they were talking about politics.
>> I know this isn't like a cardinal sin or anything, though
>> personally I
>> try to stay away from politics on the air.
>> So these guys are talking about politics for a while, and it just
>> devolves into an all out racist, ignorant, unbelievable rage
>> fest.
>> These folks were going on about how Obama is just in the white
>> house
>> to take revenge on white people, and how the government is full
>> of
>> terrorist democrats who got into politics just so they could take
>> innocent people's money and use it to abort babies and take our
>> guns
>> away.
>> They went so far as to say that the president is a peace of trash
>> who
>> hasn't gotten over the fact that black people used to be slaves,
>> and
>> just wants to destroy America.
>> Now, while I don't agree with that thesis, I know there are
>> people out
>> there who do, and it's a free country, so you can have whatever
>> opinion you want and it's fine with me.  What really angers me is
>> how
>> these guys are getting so pissed off on the radio that they're
>> screaming and ranting nonsensically for hours and hours over the
>> air.
>> This kind of thing reflects poorly on the ham community as a
>> whole,
>> and just seems like terrible manners.
>> And the sad thing is that isn't even the worst of it.
>> There's a repeater in another town about 20 miles away that has a
>> net
>> every night that I frequent.
>> You seriously couldn't find a better group of guys than that are
>> on this net.
>>
>> So these two guys who had just finished ranting about politics
>> finally
>> stop, and the one guy says to the other, "so yeah, how bout that
>> pathetic bunch of idiots who hang out on the .825 machine every
>> night..." and so on and so on.
>> Then, they started in on talking shit and laughing at one of the
>> guys
>> on the net, who not only did they name in person over the air,
>> but is
>> another blind ham.
>> I think this particular ham they're talking about, who is also
>> the
>> blind ham, might have a minor intellectual disability or
>> something, as
>> sometimes he can be a little hard to understand, but said ham is
>> one
>> of the nicest guys on the net, and always has a good word for
>> everybody he talks to.
>> So here are these guys, who aren't even in the local club or
>> anything,
>> never to my knowledge volunteer or do anything with any of the
>> ham
>> outfits in the area, and they're talking for 2 straight hours on
>> the
>> open air and laughing at other hams, calling them out by name,
>> who
>> haven't even done anything wrong.
>> It took every ounce of self-restraint I could manage not to get
>> on the
>> repeater, but I knew doing that would just feed the fire.
>> Ok, that's it.  Thanks for listening.
>> I just had to get this out there.  I was literally so pissed off
>> my
>> hands were shaking.
>> 73,
>> Zach, kk4ruz
>>