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Thanks, Lloyd.

I'll try the link.

Tom Behler: KB8TYJ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lloyd Rasmussen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: alternative contest logging programs


> Google for "download N1MM logger" and I think you will be on the right 
> page.
> They have a section of their site for files, and directories are listed in
> table format.  There are "new" files which are upgrades from the last 
> major
> version, and "full" versions which include the works.
> Performing this action and using the second Google suggestion took me to
>  http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=Full+Install
> which looks like a good starting place.  Don't be discouraged by the
> complexity of the documentation or of the program's screens.  There is a 
> lot
> to do to get it set up.
> 73 -- W3IUU
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Tom Behler
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 8:26 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: alternative contest logging programs
>
> Mike:
>
> Well, from what a number of us have been able to determine, and from what
> Scott N3FJP also says, it turns out that the N3FJP wave files are tied 
> only
> to the windows default sound card, as are the ssb transmission wave files.
> As far as we can tell, that cannot be changed.
>
> So, I'm starting to seriously look at the N1mm logging software.
>
> What I need is a direct link to a sample n1mm contest logging program just
> so I have something to play around with.
>
> So far, I have't been successful finding that on the N1mm web site, but
> perhaps someone has a direct link I can try.
>
> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Duke, K5XU" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: alternative contest logging programs
>
>
>> First, this sounds like a suggestion for N3FJP himself, to see if he
>> can offer a secondary sound card setting option for the internal wave
>> files.
>>
>> An external synthesizer will not play the wave files either,
>> therefore, you still have everything going through the sound card.
>>
>> What must be determined is whether or not your recorded contest
>> exchanges can be routed through an alternate sound card while the
>> logging program is running.
>>
>> Toward that end, the first question is are the function keys that play
>> the various exchanges assigned by the logging program, or through an
>> independent program. If they are assigned by the N3FJP program, you
>> may have hit the wall again, all the more reason to ask Scott about
>> what to do.
>>
>> Meanwhile, you can buy some USB sound cards dirt cheap, as in a few
>> dollars. While a dirt cheap card may not be what you ultimately want
>> for playback, it will at least let you play with various
>> configurations in order to see exactly what you can send through each
>> card before you break the bank on a more expensive model.
>>
>> My second guess is that you will also need to have a separate media
>> player running for the second card, since the wave files from the
>> logging program will grab Windows Media Player, or whatever your
>> default player happens to be.
>>
>> If I say much more than that, I'll be in over my head regarding
>> configurations and how to do them.
>>
>> Do let us know what ultimately works.
>>
>> K5XU
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tom Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 11:52 AM
>> Subject: alternative contest logging programs
>>
>>
>>    Hi, folks.
>>
>> As I think many of you know, I have gotten very much into contesting
>> over
>> the past few years, and have been using the N3FJP logging software
>> package
>> as my main means of logging contest contacts.
>>
>> The software actually is quite good in terms of interfacing with Jaws
>> and
>> windows, and the price of the entire software package certainly can't
>> be
>> beat.
>>
>> In recent weeks, however, I have begun to re-think the N3FJP contest
>> logging
>> option at least a bit.  The reason is rather simple.
>>
>> As our friend, Steve, KW3A knows all to well, I have been trying to
>> figure
>> out a way to record contest voice exchanges, and transmit them with my
>> TS590
>> via a connection between my laptop and the TS590.  My goal simply has
>> been
>> to create voice contest exchanges on the computer, and be able to
>> access
>> them as needed via one of the function keys on the computer keyboard.
>>
>> While this sounds like it would be pretty straight forward, it has not
>> turned out to be this easy.
>>
>> It turns out that the N3FJP software uses the Windows default sound
>> card to
>> play the wave files that tell you which fields you are in as you enter
>> contest log data.  And, these wave files can only be played through
>> the
>> windows default sound card.  Apparently, this condition cannot be
>> changed in
>> the N3FJP software, and this greatly limits what I can do in the way
>> of
>> interfacing the TS590 with my laptop, where the contest voice
>> exchanges are
>> recorded.
>>
>> AS a result, I'm now beginning to wonder whether I might want to look
>> at
>> other contest logging software that might have more flexibility in
>> switching
>> sound cards for various purposes.
>>
>> Some folks on this list have  mentioned using the N1MM software, and I
>> know
>> some others  use Writelog, but I believe there are significant costs
>> associated with each of these packages.   Plus, I believe  you also
>> have to
>> buy separate software for each contest.
>>
>> For now, my short-term solution is to directly record at least a CQ
>> contest
>> voice exchange directly on the TS590 using the VGS1 voice recorder,
>> but the
>> risks there involve the possibility of making an error by hitting the
>> wrong
>> voice memory key in the heat of a contest, if you have more than one
>> exchange.
>>
>> If anyone has any thoughts on these alternative logging software
>> programs,
>> please send them my way.  Any cost info would be appreciated as well.
>>
>> 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>
> 

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