the uv5R's meet spec as far as harmonic emitions etc. It's on the edge, but
they're ok...at least the ten or so my tech friend has tested so far.
deviation is well within spec as well everywhere on the uv5R's...so I'm not
sure what you mean by dirty.
The FCC did indeed certify these things, so they're not illegal by any
stretch of the imagination.
Weather the FCC now wishes to claim that they aren't certifiable is not
really relevant because that ship has already sailed.
Also, much of the legal use of a radio is dependant upon the license granted
for the frequencies you are using it on etc. Lots of people don't
understand all that and they think part 90 is the be all and end all of
weather you can use a particular radio or not on commercial frequencies.
Can you lock the uv5R into channel only mode, yep. Can you make it so that
a user can't use a vfo or program the radio themselves, yes,
technically...though I believe they can do a total restore on the radio and
get it back into VFO mode that way. However, it was good enough for the FCC
to approve it so again, that ship has sailed.
Technically, if this wallmart guy uses the radio in channel mode with the
frequencies programmed in that way, he's actually legally allowed to use it.
Also, wallmart uses open unlicensed low power frequencies, so there are no
commercial license requirements to be considered.
So he's fine. Now, if he went somewhere else, and transmitted on another
companies frequency or frequencies without first obtaining permission from
the license holder, he would be in trouble.
licenses specify how many handheld, mobile or bass radios are allowed to be
used by that company in a given area on a given frequency etc.
But again, wallmart uses open VHF frequencies so that they don't need to buy
licenses or worry over much about the use of the radios by their employees.
73
Colin, V A6BKX
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: question concerning the Yaesu FT-60R , dual band hand held , 2m
and 440 MHz
>I have a friend with connections in that branch of the FCC, what is sold is
> not what was type accepted in many ways but there are way too many of them
> out there for them to go back and do anything about it. They are a bit
> dirty
> on a service monitor though so if they cause interference to anyone and
> the
> FCC gets involved, there's going to be a problem but so far it hasn't been
> much of an issue probably due to the low power.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Buddy Brannan" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 8:53 AM
> Subject: Re: question concerning the Yaesu FT-60R , dual band hand held ,
> 2m
> and 440 MHz
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Not true. I bought a Baofeng UV-5R less than a month after it became =
>> widely available through Chinese/Hong Kong sellers, and it always had =
>> full coverage transmit. The version Ed started selling was the exact =
>> same radio. Arguably the type 90 acceptance may have been in error, as =
>> you couldn=92t lock out VFO tuning, but this is now possible on EEd=92s =
>> exclusive Baofeng F11 model, which makes it fully Part 90 compliant.=20
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 5, 2013, at 7:26 AM, John Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> the baofeng can transmit anywhere it can receive, except the FM =
>> broadcast=20
>>> band. When they were submitted to the FCC for type acceptance they =
>> could=20
>>> only transmit on the ham bands but, what you get now is very far from =
>> what=20
>>> was type accepted.
>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>> From: "Harvey Heagy" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 7:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: question concerning the Yaesu FT-60R , dual band hand =
>> held , 2m=20
>>> and 440 MHz
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> How can your friend who works at Wal-Mart use his Baofeng in place of =
>> his
>>>> store provided Motorola radio? Most radios can receive on extended=20=
>>
>>>> coverage
>>>> bands, but they can't transmit on any bands other than the ham ones.
>>>> Harvey
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>> From: "Zach Shifflett" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 11:10 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: question concerning the Yaesu FT-60R , dual band hand =
>> held ,=20
>>>> 2m
>>>> and 440 MHz
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>> Hi RJ.
>>>>> I have a Baofeng and love it.
>>>>> I know a lot of people who have them, both on this list and off, who
>>>>> have it as well.
>>>>> It's really a great little radio, and I think you'll like it a lot
>>>>> once you get it.
>>>>> I was talking to a guy on my local repeater the other day who works =
>> at
>>>>> a Wall-Mart store near here.
>>>>> He had gotten a baofeng for ham use, and loved it so much that he =
>> got
>>>>> another one to take to work and replace his store walky talky.
>>>>> He said it was more reliable than his company provided Motorola.
>>>>> I know it seems like it's cheap at only 40 bucks, but really it is a
>>>>> sweet little radio with all the capability you need for a starter =
>> ht.
>>>>> With the Nagoya Antenna I bought for it, I can sit on my back porch
>>>>> and make it into a repeater that's 16 miles away with full quiet, so
>>>>> it's not just a peace of junk.
>>>>> It's a really neat radio, and the best deal you can get for the =
>> price.
>>>>> As for accessibility, I've not played with many other ht's, but
>>>>> according to the active elements reviews, it seems like just about =
>> the
>>>>> most accessible handheld radio out there.
>>>>> You might get something moderately accessible if you spring for a
>>>>> really expensive Kenwood, but the Baofeng will do just fine.
>>>>> You'll have to remember a couple menu options if you wanna program
>>>>> repeaters on the fly, but it's just a matter of getting to know the
>>>>> radio.
>>>>> If you can operate a microwave oven, alarm clock, car stereo, etc.,
>>>>> you can operate this little rig.
>>>>> I heard this old guy today on a 2 meter repeater who had just come
>>>>> back from a hamfest say that the baofeng was the most incredible =
>> radio
>>>>> he'd seen for it's price.
>>>>> He said it outshined a bunch of ht's he himself had bought for 3 =
>> times
>>>>> its price.
>>>>> Anyway, I'm not trying to sell it to you or anything, but I really =
>> do
>>>>> love the radio.
>>>>> Just recently having gotten my own license, I was really skeptical =
>> at
>>>>> first.
>>>>> Check out Buddy's eyes free guide at active elements. There's a lot
>>>>> of good stuff on the site about radios of all makes and models.
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Zach, KK4RUZ=20
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