How often do you make hardware changes? I don't think the activation is a 
big deal.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russ Kiehne" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws or WindowEyes


> The thing I don't like about jaws, in many cases when you make a hardware
> change, jaws has to be reauthorized.  This is why I use window eyes.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Russell Schermer
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 3:27 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Jaws or WindowEyes
>
> I am not and never been a JAWS user. I know that not all upgrades count
> against one's SMA, but it seems that jaws does major upgrades more
> frequently than Window-eyes. I think both manufacturers gouge the 
> customers
> when it comes to upgrades especially if you don't purchase an SMA and 
> don't
> upgrade every time a new upgrade comes out.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:03 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Jaws or WindowEyes
>
> And, I hate to get in an argument Russell, but your point is?  You
> apparently aren't a Jaws user, or you don't have Jaws set to inform you of
> updates?  Since the release of the first version of Jaws 14 last November,
> there have been five releases that don't coount against your upgrade 
> count.
> There were similar releases for Jaws 13.
>
> Both screen readers have their positive aspects.  I do like the fact I can
> bring Win-Eyes for for that matter, NVDA up in Safe Mode.  I don't know if
> Jaws will incorporate that in the Jaws 15 beta which they will have an
> FsCast on this week.  I do like the convenient OCR feature in Jaws which 
> has
> enabled me to install software that was previously inaccessible at least 
> as
> far as the installation was concerned.
>
> Steve, K8SP
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russell Schermer" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Jaws or WindowEyes
>
>
>> Window-eyes also has SMA's, but only for major upgrades. GW Micro 
>> provides
>> minor upgrades for free.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Anthony Vece
>> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 10:22 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Jaws or WindowEyes
>>
>> Hey Tom;
>>
>> Also, don't forget about Serotek.
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Tom Behler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Jim:
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>>> Yeah, I know about the Jaws SMA's.
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>>> Fortunately, for me, the University purchases my SMA's, although I
>> haven't=
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>>> asked them too for the past year, since the updates really don't seem
>> to=20=
>>
>>> provide that much, and I try only to ask for what I absolutely need.
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>>> Of course, this will all change when I retire in a few years, at which
>> tim=
>> e,=20
>>> I'm not sure what I'll do.
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>>> Sure makes the MAC option appealing down the road!
>>>=20
>>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
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>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>> From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 6:02 PM
>>> Subject: Jaws or WindowEyes
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> Tom, I have both but use WindowEyes much more than JFW.  Also, I
>>>> don't have any SMA's for Jaws updates and the stupid software is
>>>> too expensive! Jim WA6EKS
>>>>=20
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Tom Behler <[log in to unmask]
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Date sent: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:52:33 -0400
>>>> Subject: Re: QRZ.com
>>>>=20
>>>> Jim:
>>>>=20
>>>> I forget:
>>>>=20
>>>> Do you use Jaws or Window Eyes?
>>>>=20
>>>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>>>=20
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 5:42 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: QRZ.com
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> I just tried QRZ.com again and was able to click on email and get
>>>> the
>>>> address unlike earlier times.  So I guess I will have to retract
>>>> my
>>>> comment
>>>> about QRZ.com being very user unfriendly and say it's only
>>>> somewhat
>>>> unfriendly.  Not that it matters for this list, but it reminded
>>>> me that I
>>>> need to upgrade my photo on that site, it was taken at my old
>>>> QTH.  Jim
>>>> WA6EKS
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Tom Behler
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 2:20 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: QRZ.com
>>>>=20
>>>> Thanks, Curtis.
>>>>=20
>>>> Will definitely give this a try.
>>>>=20
>>>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>>>=20
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Curtis Delzer" <[log in to unmask]
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:35 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: QRZ.com
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Hi all, why not use this site for call sign lookups.
>>>> http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp
>>>>=20
>>>> works fine!
>>>>=20
>>>> Curtis Delzer.
>>>> HS.
>>>>=20
>>>> K 6 V F O
>>>> San Bernardino, CA.
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>>>> [log in to unmask]
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>>>> skype: curtis1014
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