Thank you Butch and John and others.  I'm going to try this route and see
what happens.  I believe it will work.  If not, we'll try something
different.  Thanks a bunch,

Kent


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:46 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: rf ground, how long is too long?

Yes, you are right on how to eonnect the cable.  As far as ground loops,
some times grounding stuff causes them.  Grounding everything isn't a solve
all.  I've run many times without a station ground at all and everything
worked fine.  As far as what type of coax, at a hundred watts, probably
doesn't matter, although something heavy like rg8 would be better.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Mon, 12 Aug 2013, Kent Plemmons wrote:

> Thank youSteve and others.  The coax as a ground wire sounds like a 
> great idea.  I have some questions for clarification.
>
> If I understand correctly you are saying to solder a .001 MFD 
> capacitor between the center conductor and the shield at each end of 
> my length of coax.  Once this is done I would then connect the center 
> conductor to the ground on my rig and the other end to my ground rod.
>
> 1:  What kind of coax would be good to use?  I don't anticipate 
> running over 100W.
>
> 2:  For other equipment in my shack should I connect those ground 
> wires to the center conductor near the connection to my rig?
> I understand that I should connect all of the ground wires for 
> equipment in my shack to a common point and then connect to the ground 
> wire going out to the ground rod.  .
> I want to avoid creating any ground loops.
>
> Kent Plemmons near Clyde, NC
> Skype: kent.plemmons
> K j plemmons at g mail .com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:56 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: rf ground, how long is too long?
>
> That should work, but I'd suggest an old trick we use to use.  Use 
> coax cable for your ground wire, that is the center conductor.  Bypass 
> the center to the shield on each end with a .001 cap.  This shields 
> the ground and prevents it from acting like an antenna.
> 73
> Butch
> WA0VJR
> Node 3148
> Wallace, ks.
>
>
> On Sun, 11 Aug 2013,
> Kent Plemmons wrote:
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>> Hi everybody,
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>> How long is too long to run my rf ground to an earth ground?
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>> I would like to put my hf rig in a room on the main floor of our 
>> house (not a second story) but it would require running my rf ground 
>> about 18' to an earth ground.  This room is heated in the winter and 
>> is comfortable.  The other option I have is to put it in the basement 
>> which is not completely underground and would take some amount of 
>> modification to make comfortable in cold weather but I would only 
>> need to run my rf ground about 6' to an earth ground.  I could 
>> relocate computer if necessary.  I don't want to get all set up with 
>> antenna cabling etc. just to find out that I should have put 
>> everything in the basement where there is a shorter ground.  Any of 
>> you have similar
> problem?  Where would you locate?
>>
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>>
>> Kent Plemmons somewhere in the Smoky Mountains of NC
>>
>> Skype: kent.plemmons
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>> Kk4fff
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