Some of you might recall this scenario. Several years ago an obnoxious ham
in Fort Worth, Texas was causing all kinds of problems. He was intentionally
creating QRM on local stations on 75; he  was knowingly and intentionally
creating serious TVI and RFI in the neighborhood. He was even coming through
people's intercoms. When people complained about it, he would get verbally
violent. To cut to the bottom line, since it seemed like the authorities
weren't going to take any action against the fellow, his coax mysteriously
got shorted, and that only took care of the problem for a short time. Then,
it wasn't long before he was back doing the same thing. So, next his tower
and antenna system mysteriously came crashing down in the middle of the
night. He was certain that one of his neighbors did it, and so, he got a
gun, went next door, and threatened the neighbor. The neighbor called the
police. As the police pulled up to the neighbor's house, they heard gun
shots and caught the crazy, obnoxious ham shooting out his neighbor's
windows. Finally, the police had what they needed to arrest the guy. This
was way back in the mid to late 1970's, and I think the story was even
published in one of the ham mags. Unfortunately, such ugly, obnoxious
behavior among hams isn't all that new, but I think it might be more
prevalent than it used to be.   

Oh, in case you are wondering, I was living in Arlington, Texas at the time,
and was very active in the local ham club. The word went around ham circles
that a couple of hams were responsible for the dastardly deeds! I'm
certainly not advocating that way of resolving problems, but I'll have to
admit that I thought it was pretty funny and the obnoxious ham deserved
everything he got.

Ron, K8HSY

-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of John Miller
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 2:30 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: terrible behavior on two meter repeater: you guys won't believe
this

The funny thing is, a few of that group, the 2 or 3 I've met, and a couple
more I've talked to on other frequencies not realizing at first who they
were, were decent guys, it's just that group as a hole that's the problem. 
Honestly, when I did realize who they were I still talked to them. I heard
about it later but we had a decent conversation. Same in person at a ham
fest, I was looking at stuff for sale, then they spoke up and I knew the
voices, friendly as can be. It's really that group as a hole that's the
problem at least the group around New England, NY, NJ, PA and that area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Adams" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: terrible behavior on two meter repeater: you guys won't believe
this


> Yes, I have heard that group and much filth but there is a great bunch 
> of guys on the same frequency in the mornings.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of John Miller
> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 8:04 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: terrible behavior on two meter repeater: you guys won't 
> believe this
>
> There's a group on 3910 every day in this part of the country that 
> does nothing but stuff like that to get people going and most use 
> legit call signs, or what appear to be. I know a couple are because 
> I've met them at ham fests and that's all they want is to get people 
> going. Maybe I'm twisted but if I'm alone, everyone went to bed or 
> what ever, I sometimes find them entertaining because like a comedy 
> show, I know not to take them serious.
> That being said I can't say I'd be disappointed to see them all taken 
> off the air but they've been there doing the same thing since long 
> before I became a ham 18 years ago, they've all been fined, most have 
> had license suspensions and what not but they always come back and I 
> don't think they've had anything happen in over 10 years. Sometimes 
> they go too far even to be entertaining but more often than not they are
entertaining.
> With
> all the local groups coming up on 10 meters though I'm thinking if I 
> have time soon I may come up with an antenna for there and start 
> getting back on there at night.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 3:32 AM
> Subject: Re: terrible behavior on two meter repeater: you guys won't 
> believe this
>
>
>> and these guys accomplished exactly what they set out to.  That is, 
>> they got someone riled up by what they were saying.
>> The whole point of doing that ont he air is to get people riled and 
>> upset and pissed off.  It's partially to get attention and partially 
>> just for their own sense of entertainment.
>> It's like this, they feel empowered by pretending to think and 
>> believe what they are saying, and when they piss someone off, because 
>> that person really thinks they believe this stuff, they can sit back 
>> and laugh and say, oh, what an idiot for thinking we think that for real.
>> It's a form of power over others, manipulation and causing them to 
>> think a certain way which is false.
>> It makes them feel smarter and better than others.
>> It's stupid and petty and anoying, but that's all it is lol.
>> They probably got off the repeater and went back to channel 19 to 
>> harass people down there.
>> Just goes to show, anyone can get a ham license right.
>> Speaking of that, when you do hear suspicious stuff on the air like 
>> that, get call signs and check them out.  if they don't check out you 
>> can assume they are pirate stations and can alert others to simply 
>> ignore anything they might say.
>> But, they were probably legitimate licensed hams who just had nothing 
>> better to do than make inflamitory statements.
>> And before some old fart responds on here and says something to 
>> effect of what has ham radio come to and it was never like that back 
>> when I was first licensed, crap like this, and far worse, has been 
>> going on for many decades on the amateur radio bands.
>> Let's not forget, it is amateur radio and not professional radio, so 
>> one cannot expect everyone to follow some gentlemans agreement about 
>> on air conduct.
>> Take a listen to 14.313 some time, or some groups on 75 meters.
>> they're worse, and go on every single day.
>>
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
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