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Tom Behler <[log in to unmask]>
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Amen, Pat!

Now being in a similar situation as you, I too am being relegated to wire 
antennas.

But, as they say, any antennas are better than none, which is my montra 
lately.

I do enjoy reading about those other listers who have the space and/or 
ability to put up the tower and beam antennas we once had, though.  Maybe 
the day will come for me again someday.  But that will have to wait until 
after retirement, and after the XYL and I have decided how and where to 
spend our retirement years.  Of course, there are those important financial 
realities too.

Tom Behler: KB8TYJ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Byrne" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: Antennas etc.


> Jim,
> I have had a couple of Yagi antennaes (Mosley) on a couple of towers
> at my last couple of homes.  We moved five years ago to this location
> and it just seemed economically and lots of other ways to be too
> difficult to repeat the tower installation.  Our radio club has aged,
> along with me and now it is very difficult to get a bunch of hams out
> on a Saturday morning to stick a beam up in the sky for a hamburger
> and a beer!  And nowadays the liability potential of someone getting
> hyurt on your antenna project suing you is a distinct
> possibility.  And most of the professional installers in my area
> aren't even interested in ham antannnaes - so it's been wires for me
> for the past five years.   And, it isn't the same!!  But I'll bite
> the bullet and enjoy my G5RV and Carolina Windem and pretend they are 
> beams!
> Pat, K9JAUAt 07:17 PM 8/24/2013, you wrote:
>>Alan, I am so happy that you are able to have the station and
>>antennas you have.  I can only dream about such things, living on
>>a small lot within a city.  I had to turn down a 50 free standing
>>tower because well, my wife for one, but also probable
>>engineering and environmental impact stuff and I want to maintain
>>a low profile with the neighbors.  I have a musician friend who
>>is a contester and has mono band beams on most
>>HF bands.  He lives out east of me maybe 30 miles and I would
>>love to take my lowly Kenwood and hook it up to his antenna
>>array.  Only thing is, I would probably think the rig was deaf
>>once I got it back home and reconnected to my dipole.
>>I look forward to hearing you again on 40 and 75 for that matter
>>especially when you get your new antennas up.  Best 73, Jim
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Alan R.  Downing" <[log in to unmask]
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Date sent: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 16:40:27 -0700
>>Subject: Re: 7191 gathering
>>
>>Hello Jim, I enjoyed it as well, but I wish that 40 was in better
>>shape.  My
>>SteppIr DB36 has 3 elements on 40 and 30, and works great.  In a
>>month or
>>so, I will add the 80 meter rotating dipole kit to it.  I should
>>have done
>>it when I installed the DB36, but for whatever reason, I didn't.
>>How it has
>>to be done up in the air.  I will lower my tower down to about 26
>>feet, and
>>rent a platform lift truck, or a crane, and two guys will go up
>>and install
>>all of the pieces that make up this dipole.  I will probably have
>>to rotate
>>the antenna so that they can reach the entire boom.  It is going
>>to be hard,
>>and fairly expensive because of having to rent the truck.  I have
>>everything
>>I need, but it is just too hot here now.  I don't want to subject
>>my friends
>>to working in this heat.  We predict that it will take a minimum
>>of 4 hours,
>>and nothing ever goes smoothly.  I will rent the truck for an
>>entire
>>Saturday, and hope that one full day will suffice.  3 elements on
>>40 is a
>>tremendous advantage over dipoles, inverted V's, or verticals.  I
>>consider
>>myself fortunate to have a great antenna like the SteppIr.
>>
>>
>>
>>Alan R.  Downing
>>Phoenix, AZ
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: For blind ham radio operators
>>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>On Behalf Of Jim Gammon
>>Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:32 PM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: 7191 gathering
>>
>>Hi Alan, at least you can point, using a dipole here, I am left
>>to the whim of atmospherics etc.  Thanks for the short QSO.  Best
>>73, Jim WA6EKS
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Alan R.  Downing" <[log in to unmask]
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Date sent: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:21:25 -0700
>>Subject: Re: 7191 gathering
>>
>>Jim, I had good copy on you, even though I was pointing due
>>north.
>>
>>
>>Alan R.  Downing
>>Phoenix, AZ
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: For blind ham radio operators
>>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>On Behalf Of Jim Gammon
>>Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 1:47 PM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: 7191 gathering
>>
>>Only person I could hear was Alan.  Went up to 20 and worked 5
>>Ohio stations within about 4 minutes.  Can't make the 20 meter
>>net tomorrow because am playing a music gig in the park.  Jim
>>WA6EKS
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>From: DAN REID <[log in to unmask]
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Date sent: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:16:46 -0600
>>Subject: Re: 7191 gathering
>>
>>ke7gc, wa6eks and kb6unc are here out west, but not able to hear
>>the =
>>rest of the gang.
>>Will try on 20 tomorrow.
>>73,
>>de kb6unc
>>Dan
>>   ----- Original Message -----=20
>>   From: Buddy Brannan<mailto:[log in to unmask]>=20
>>   To: =
>>[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>G>=20
>>   Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 2:09 PM
>>   Subject: Re: 7191 gathering
>>
>>
>>   I think you=3D92re maybe a tad too far west.
>>   --
>>   Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>   Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>
>>
>>
>>   On Aug 24, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Alan R.  Downing =
>><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>>  I have been on freq for 20 minutes or so with nothing heard.
>>=3D20
>>=3D20
>>  Alan R.  Downing
>>  Phoenix, AZ
>>=3D20
>>=3D20
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: For blind ham radio operators =3D
>>   [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>  On Behalf Of Jim Gammon
>>  Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:59 PM
>>  To: =
>>[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>G
>>  Subject: Re: 7191 gathering
>>=3D20
>>  Hi Alan, am listening on 7.191 now and hearing nothing.
>>Also,=3D20
>>  the WWV's are not coming in well at all so I don't know how =
>>well=3D20
>>  the meeting on 7.191 is going to work.  Jim WA6EKS
>>=3D20
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: "Alan R.  Downing" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>  To: =
>>[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>G
>>  Date sent: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:53:29 -0700
>>  Subject: 7191 gathering
>>=3D20
>>  Is the gathering on 7191 meeting in approximately ten minutes?
>>=3D20
>>=3D20
>>=3D20
>>=3D20
>>=3D20
>>  Alan R.  Downing
>>=3D20
>>  Phoenix, AZ
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