Ron,
I understand your point.
I was in a store recently where a man stated that I was pretending to be
blind just to bring in my dog.
I was in there to purchase some bnc connectors.
A good friend of mine who knows me was there and defended me by telling that
man that he did not really know what he or who he was talking about. I
heard the exchange as I typically choose to ignore that type of
dumbmentality where people think you are visually impaired and also hearing
impaired. I also happen to have good hearing.
I was about to enter the Radio Shack store on this particular occasion.
Jose - KK4JZX
-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Ronald E. Milliman
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 11:07 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: screen readers
I'm slipping off into a tangential topic, but as a businessman, I hate
dealing with the general public. It is getting worse all of the time. That
is why all of my businesses have focuses more on the business-to-business
segments, and even at that level, it is pretty challenging sometimes.
Making this ham radio related, hams are notorious for wanting something for
nothing. I took my TS-440 to a hamfest to sell, and I remember one fellow
really liked it, and he looked it over pretty good, asked lots of questions,
and walked away, but then, he came back and made me an offer well below my
asking price, like insultingly low. I told him I couldn't take that little
for it. I'd be practically giving it away. He told me that was my problem,
not his, and that was his offer, take it or leave it. More than what he said
was the tone and manner in which he said it. Then, as he was walking away, I
heard him tell whomever he was with: "That blind xxxx, he probably bought
that rig with his welfare check, and that is our tax money to begin with;
so, the son of a xxx should just give it to me since I've already paid for
it once." I wish I was just making that all up, but unfortunately, I'm not.
Admittedly, that was more of the exception than the rule, but it drives home
my point about doing business with the public.
Ron, K8HSY
At 10:19 AM 12/24/2012 -0500, you wrote:
>The developer of qwitter was sincere too and look what happened with
>that. A tantrum, a hissy fit, and pulling the program. I can't say I
>blame him knowing the situation, but still, if it happened there, it
>can happen with NVDA, anywhere if they've had enough. Having been in
>the business of building and fixing computers, sometimes I think labor
>costs are more for dealing with the people than doing the work, I never
>found the computer with enough time I couldn't get going. I found many
>people who I couldn't deal with though.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ronald E. Milliman" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 9:12 AM
>Subject: Re: screen readers
>
>
>> The two fellows that originally developed and is currently
>> maintaining NDVA seem to be totally sincere in their dedication to
>> always providing a very excellent free screen reading program. They
>> have some funding from some major firms in the industry, but they
>> also depend some on individual contributions. Since it is open source
>> software, and since several highly qualified people are assisting
>> them in the on-going development of the product, I suspect it will be
>> around for quite some time in the future.
>>
>> The largest challenge, in my opinion, is whether free products like
>> NVDA, or even costly programs like JAWS, will continue to keep up
>> with the rapidly changing technology and even be needed at some
>> point, not that far in the future. We are seeing signs that
>> computers, as we have known them are soon to be totally obsolete.
>> With the availability of totally accessible, off the shelf devices,
>> such as the iPhone, iPad, iPod, Apple TV, I question how much longer
>> there will be a need for programs like JAWS.
>> Oh, I am not suggesting JAWS and WindowEyes will no longer exist in
>> five years, but in ten years, that might be an entirely different
>> issue. Input and output using total Voice and thought activation and
>> even thought interaction with our devices is not out of the question
>> within a very few years.
>>
>> Ron, K8HSY
>>
>>
>> At 07:32 AM 12/24/2012 -0500, you wrote:
>>>The problem with the free ones is, they don't owe anyone anything,
>>>they get sick of complaints because of course people want perfection
>>>for free, so they get sick of the complaints and pull the plug
>>>leaving you scrambling to find something else and learn it. that's
>>>especially bad in a work environment. I've seen it happen and heard
>>>of it happening, thankfully never to me in a work environment
>>>personally though some of the fun programs I've used it's happened
>>>to.
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 7:21 AM
>>>Subject: Re: screen readers
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have thought of the same questions many times.
>>>> And then to see agencies needlessly spending our tax payer money
>>>>when they could put this technology in to the hands of three times
>>>>as many clients for the same money, just makes me sick!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gary Tillinghast" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 8:32 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: screen readers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You would think that with the free screen reading software out
>>>>> there, you would think JAWS would be better in pricing. We all
>>>>> should drop it an go FREE! Gary KB2YAA What is the value of a
>>>>> hug if you don't share it?
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "KK4AHX Darren Duff" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 3:23 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: screen readers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It works great! I dropped jaws back in June and I use NVDA everyday
>>>>> now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 73.
>>>>> Darren Duff.
>>>>> amateur radio station KK4AHX.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vice President,
>>>>> Cherokee Amateur Radio Society.
>>>>> http://www.cherokeehams.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Cherokee County ARES.
>>>>> http://www.cherokee-ares.org
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Ronald E. Milliman
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 9:58 AM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: screen readers
>>>>>
>>>>> Re Free Screen Reading Programs...
>>>>>
>>>>> I am hearing really positive feedback about the NVDA screen reading
>>>>> program
>>>>> which is entirely free. I am not using it, but I am sure thinking
>>>>> seriously
>>>>> about switching over to it instead of shelling out bucks all of the
>>>>> time
>>>>> on
>>>>> this JAWS program. The one person I know who uses the NVDA screen
>>>>> reading
>>>>> program is Riley, KL3RH; so, you can check with him to see what he
>>>>> tells
>>>>> you
>>>>> about it. I think he uses JAWS too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron, K8HSY
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Ronald E. Milliman, retired Professor Western Kentucky University
>>>>>
>>>>> Chair, American Council of the Blind Public Relations Committee
>>>>>
>>>>> Chair, American Council of the Blind's Monthly Monetary Support
Program
>>>>> (MMS) Committee
>>>
>> Dr. Ronald E. Milliman, retired Professor Western Kentucky University
>>
>> Chair, American Council of the Blind Public Relations Committee
>>
>> Chair, American Council of the Blind's Monthly Monetary Support Program
>> (MMS) Committee
>
Dr. Ronald E. Milliman, retired Professor Western Kentucky University
Chair, American Council of the Blind Public Relations Committee
Chair, American Council of the Blind's Monthly Monetary Support Program
(MMS) Committee
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