A cart will return is,

Where you do a couple of cartwheels… And then throw your phone to the other person

73 Dustin KF5VXR


> On Sep 30, 2015, at 5:33 PM, Dave Allen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott!
> 
> It does seem to be working for you. Only thing puzzling me is what's a cart
> wheel return?
> 
> Seems like the best solution so far so long as more practice it.
> 
> 73,
> Dave
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Scott Gillen ZL1CHM
> Sent: Thursday, 1 October 2015 11:27 a.m.
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Decent 160M antenna
> 
> On my iPhone if I add a cartwheel return at about the 60 character in the
> line You don't get the ='s signs. 
> You may be able to push that out closer to the 80 though. 
> Didn't want to clutter of the list to test that theory. 
> 
> 
> Scott
> ZL1CHM / N0HOK
> Auckland New Zealand 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 1/10/2015, at 8:33 AM, Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> Any way to send this without the equals?
>> 73
>> Butch
>> WA0VJR
>> Node 3148
>> Wallace, ks.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2015, Eric Oyen 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> here is an alternative that is pretty easy to build.
>>> 
>>> 1 you will need 50 feet of PVC pipe and at least 1/4 wave of enameled =
>>> magnet wire. the idea here is to make a helical wound antenna (much like
> =
>>> a firestik. the windings will need to be widely spaced at the bottom =
>>> (about 1 turn per foot and gradually reducing to a tight wound coil near
> =
>>> the top. You can also create loaded ground radials this way. The ground =
>>> radials definitely need to be 1/4 wave long (electrically). the vertical
> =
>>> element can be 1/4 up to 3/4 waves (wound). THis will make an excellent =
>>> low space vertical antenna.
>>> 
>>> as a second (receive only) you can create a magnetic loop antenna that =
>>> is not much larger than 10 feet in diameter. the top will be split and a
> =
>>> tuning cap placed there. there is also a secondary coupling loop (this =
>>> will directly connect to the coax). with the addition of a preamp, you =
>>> will have a station that can produce a decent signal on 160 with the =
>>> ears to match.
>>> 
>>> DE n7zzt Eric
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:16 AM, Steve Forst wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mike,
>>>> =20
>>>> I don't have any experience with any of the antennas you mention,
> but=20=
>>> 
>>>> perhaps an inverted L would be better than the long wire.  For long =
>>> haul=20
>>>> stuff on 160, vertical antennas are the way to go.   You would get =
>>> that=20
>>>> from the inverted L, or the other 2 antennas you mention.
>>>> =20
>>>> I'm using what is probably the worst antenna for 160, a loaded
> dipole=20=
>>> 
>>>> that isn't very high.  You have a better location than me, and would=20=
>>> 
>>>> probably do well no matter what antenna you use.
>>>> =20
>>>> While there is plenty of SSB activity, and even DX, my experience is=20=
>>> 
>>>> that CW is the better mode on this band.  I have 19 DXCC countries
> on=20=
>>> 
>>>> 160 SSB worked, and 60 countries on CW.   Only country I worked on =
>>> phone=20
>>>> that I couldn't repeat on CW was Gambia.
>>>> =20
>>>> Of course, your location may give you nice  SSB contacts into
> western=20=
>>> 
>>>> Europe, that I could only dream about.
>>>> =20
>>>> Good luck.  Now is the time to do something before the snow flies.
>>>> =20
>>>> Do you know what the bandwidth would be for  the Zero 5 antenna with =
>>> the=20
>>>> optional coil?
>>>> =20
>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>> =20
>>>>> On 9/30/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Ryan wrote:
>>>>> Hi all:
>>>>> =20
>>>>> This may open up a flood gate but what are your decent 160M antennas =
>>> and experiences with these?
>>>>> I'm hoping to put up a 330 foot long wire on a 20 foot high mast in a =
>>> few weeks but not sure how well it will get out with 4 or 500W. I think =
>>> another favorite is the Hy-gain high towers, which are 50 feet tall with
> =
>>> a coil and require radials. There's now a coil I can buy for my Zero =
>>> Five vertical which makes it a better performer on 160 with radials. I'm
> =
>>> pretty sure I could get this coil and some radials for 160 for a 3RD the
> =
>>> cost of the Hy-gain high tower.
>>>>> =20
>>>>> 73:
>>>>> Mike DE VO1AX
>>>>> =20
>>