Is that telephone version of WWV as accurate as the on-air version?  Seems 
like the modern phone system, with all its contortions and variations, must 
introduce some delay in the signal.  Even in the old days, radio waves 
travelled faster than wired signals.

The Other Howard, WA9RYF
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: W1AW followup


> Glen,
>
> Fort Collins, Colorado is up north of Denver about 50 miles.  You'd think 
> we
> could hear WWV ground wave even on 2.5 day and night but it ain't so.  All
> the bands propagate, even on their 2.5 MHz frequency, so I normally have 
> to
> tune 5 MHZ during the day and even then, there  is no stability in how 
> loud,
> or weak, 5 MHz is going to be.  I can, with my G5RV at 35 feet, copy the 
> 15
> and 20 MHz WWV signals but normally, if there is any propagation at all,
> copying WWVH in Hawaii, over WWV, on their 15 MHz frequency is easier and
> often 10 over s9.  Of course, the Hawaii station no longer transmits on 
> the
> 20 MHz frequency but I'm still too far away to copy the voice on 15 or 20
> MHz.  Some days, 10 MHz ends up being the best and if worst comes to 
> worst?
> I just pull my cell phone out and punch the speed dial button for the
> telephone time.  It sounds just like a 50 over S9 signal and you can even
> hear the sub audible tones under the ticking of the clock sound on the
> phone.  When I had a 2 element 40 meter beam up at 70 feet, some nights, 
> and
> mornings, the Hawaii station on 5 MHz would literally be pegging out the S
> meter, if that is, I was beaming out west.  She sure has a nice voice and 
> I
> often can understand her better than the male voice from the WWV stations
> here in Colorado, haha.  Most late evening and nights, even now, I can 
> copy
> WWVH in Hawaii on 5 MHz and when the sun spot cycle is peaking, I can copy
> WWVH on 2.5 over the top of WWV.  Then you know for sure the low bands are
> cooking.
>
> Phil.
> K0NX
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Glen Schroeder" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:52 PM
> Subject: Re: W1AW followup
>
>
>> hi phil and list.
>>
>> i have all the w1aw freqs in mem ory buttons on my ts440 so i can check
>> them
>> when they're on or when i'm down there by the radio.  i usually check at
>> six
>> central time and i can always get the w1aw on one sisty, eighty and 
>> forty.
>> as the days get longer, i can sometimes get the one on twenty.  i've
>> hardly
>> ever heard the one on fifteen at the time.
>>
>> 73  glen
>> ka9yiu
>>
>> ---- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:51 PM
>> Subject: W1AW followup
>>
>>
>>> It is now 6:45 PM local Denver mountain time and I just checked W1AW =
>>> channels again.  I am copying them better on 160 meters, Q5 but lots of 
>>> =
>>> QSB, and they are faint on 40 meters but stronger, of course, as is to =
>>> be expected now that it is fully sundown, on 80 meters.  I've never =
>>> heard W1AW on 160 Q5 at this early hour.  Either 40 meters could =
>>> possibly be super long in propagation right now, which could actually be
>>> =
>>> but I'm guessing not, but 80 and 160 are just about right.  Still weird 
>>> =
>>> conditions.
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>> K0NX
>>