Well, I'd like to add my nickle's worth about this subject. Unfortunately, 
our club's repeater has been pleagued with badconduct. We had a group of 
guys who were transmitting profanity. When we heard them we would shut the 
repeater off. The thing is, they would play "cat and mouse" with us. They'd 
just wait until we turned the repeater back on and then start again. The 
cycle would repeat over and over again. We found out who they were. We also 
discovered one of their internet blogs where they said that it was their 
constitutional right to transmit profanity on our repeater if they chose. 
They further stated on their blog that if anyone tried to stop them, they'd 
pay for it with their lives. They said that they would have no problem 
blowing away a federal marcial or an fcc field enginer if necessary. We 
learned that theese guys have been sited on several occasions but they have 
some pretty good atorneys who get them out of the mess. Zach, if you can 
find out who is the trustee of that repeater, you might want to let him 
know. If the repeater's controller has a scheduler on it, the repeater can 
be automaticly shut off at the time when theese bozos areknown to get on and 
talk their "junk". Sorry if the post was too long. Continue to enjoy the 
hobby, Zach! 73

-----Original Message----- 
From: John Miller
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 12:30 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: terrible behavior on two meter repeater: you guys won't believe 
this

The funny thing is, a few of that group, the 2 or 3 I've met, and a couple
more I've talked to on other frequencies not realizing at first who they
were, were decent guys, it's just that group as a hole that's the problem.
Honestly, when I did realize who they were I still talked to them. I heard
about it later but we had a decent conversation. Same in person at a ham
fest, I was looking at stuff for sale, then they spoke up and I knew the
voices, friendly as can be. It's really that group as a hole that's the
problem at least the group around New England, NY, NJ, PA and that area.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Adams" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: terrible behavior on two meter repeater: you guys won't believe
this


> Yes, I have heard that group and much filth but there is a great bunch of
> guys on the same frequency in the mornings.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of John Miller
> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 8:04 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: terrible behavior on two meter repeater: you guys won't
> believe this
>
> There's a group on 3910 every day in this part of the country that does
> nothing but stuff like that to get people going and most use legit call
> signs, or what appear to be. I know a couple are because I've met them at
> ham fests and that's all they want is to get people going. Maybe I'm
> twisted but if I'm alone, everyone went to bed or what ever, I sometimes
> find them entertaining because like a comedy show, I know not to take them
> serious.
> That being said I can't say I'd be disappointed to see them all taken off
> the air but they've been there doing the same thing since long before I
> became a ham 18 years ago, they've all been fined, most have had license
> suspensions and what not but they always come back and I don't think
> they've had anything happen in over 10 years. Sometimes they go too far
> even to be entertaining but more often than not they are entertaining.
> With
> all the local groups coming up on 10 meters though I'm thinking if I have
> time soon I may come up with an antenna for there and start getting back
> on
> there at night.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 3:32 AM
> Subject: Re: terrible behavior on two meter repeater: you guys won't
> believe this
>
>
>> and these guys accomplished exactly what they set out to.  That is,
>> they got someone riled up by what they were saying.
>> The whole point of doing that ont he air is to get people riled and
>> upset and pissed off.  It's partially to get attention and partially
>> just for their own sense of entertainment.
>> It's like this, they feel empowered by pretending to think and believe
>> what they are saying, and when they piss someone off, because that
>> person really thinks they believe this stuff, they can sit back and
>> laugh and say, oh, what an idiot for thinking we think that for real.
>> It's a form of power over others, manipulation and causing them to
>> think a certain way which is false.
>> It makes them feel smarter and better than others.
>> It's stupid and petty and anoying, but that's all it is lol.
>> They probably got off the repeater and went back to channel 19 to
>> harass people down there.
>> Just goes to show, anyone can get a ham license right.
>> Speaking of that, when you do hear suspicious stuff on the air like
>> that, get call signs and check them out.  if they don't check out you
>> can assume they are pirate stations and can alert others to simply
>> ignore anything they might say.
>> But, they were probably legitimate licensed hams who just had nothing
>> better to do than make inflamitory statements.
>> And before some old fart responds on here and says something to effect
>> of what has ham radio come to and it was never like that back when I
>> was first licensed, crap like this, and far worse, has been going on
>> for many decades on the amateur radio bands.
>> Let's not forget, it is amateur radio and not professional radio, so
>> one cannot expect everyone to follow some gentlemans agreement about
>> on air conduct.
>> Take a listen to 14.313 some time, or some groups on 75 meters.
>> they're worse, and go on every single day.
>>
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
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