I did the best I could with my vertical and wire on HF, I'm happy with them. 
I'd love to have more height, not so much more separation, the lack of 
height on the wire gets me but they play, I'm happy. Many told me I'd never 
get on the air at all from here, I guess I proved them wrong. It's not ideal 
but it's on the air and not using a computer and pretending I'm on the air 
while I'm ashamed of myself either.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Byrne" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Working or not working


> Alan,
> I believe that most of us agree with your point, but when you don't
> have adequate test equipment or perhaps the expertise to utilize it,
> on the air results indicate success or failure.  My Carolina Windem
> and G5RV antennaes are separated by perhaps forty-five feet and run
> in essentially the same directions, but when I installed the second
> wire there appeared to be no degradation in the way that the first
> antenna performed and the added antenna seems to work well also.  And
> both wires allow me successful contacts as often as not, so
> unscientifically, I declare both antennaes a success.
> thanks.
> Pat, K9JAUAt 12:34 PM 8/31/2013, you wrote:
>>Good morning all,
>>
>>
>>
>>My point was simply that it is not possible to declare an antenna as 
>>working
>>on the basis of such a limited data set.  There is an awful lot more
>>involved to just declare some antenna as working just because you were 
>>able
>>to carry on a local QSO, probably thru a repeater at that.
>>
>>
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>>73
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>>
>>Alan R. Downing
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>>Phoenix, AZ
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