Hi Curtis,

I think that I'll do the MP3 tutorials and review when 4.2 is properly
released, in a couple of days and when I've had time to get used to it as my
live log <smile>!  

It's interesting that Window-Eyes doesn't hook into the code as NVDA and
System Access does, and will need a bit of relabeling done.  There are some
List Views on the main screen where SA and NVDA do a great job, and
Window-Eyes is not so good out of the box, but can be made to do a slightly
better job than the other two with the use of Hot Spots.  Sometimes I needed
to be practical with the access, and I figured that if it worked identically
with 2 out of the 3 screen readers, it was the third one with the problem,
even if it was the one I use the most!

I've actually written to GW Micro, to ask why WE is not doing the job out of
the box.

The testing by Jim using JAWS will be very interesting.

I'll be giving out all the 4.2 download details in a day or so, and will
perhaps have a little time to help with how AC Log works.

Best wishes, Kelvin Marsh - M0AID

Working to improve accessibility for radio amateurs with disabilities

www.active-elements.org

For accessibility evaluations of amateur equipment and MP3 manuals


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: 29 August 2013 18:18
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Amateur Contact Log Accessibility

that is certainly great news! where do we find this update, etc.
and have you done a review, etc. I use window-eyes, but have NVDA as
well and enjoy it's ability too, for example, work with my TMV71A
programmer.


Curtis Delzer.
HS.

K 6 V F O
San Bernardino, CA.

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On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 18:10:42 +0100
Kelvin Marsh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> The new accessibility features are now incorporated into the 4.2 Beta of
> Amateur Contact Log.  I requested, and Scott has implemented full keyboard
> access to virtually every aspect of the logger, including the Cluster
> window, and apart from today's tweaks, I think it's just about done.
> Knowing how hard Scott works, I bet 4.2 will be out of Beta very soon
> 
> I understand that Scott is also reincorporating the shared accessibility
> changes into his contest software at the moment.  Whilst I'm not sure how
> accessible these programs will be, the setup dialogs that we were
struggling
> with previously should be as they are in AC Log itself.
> 
> Interestingly, Scott has used NVDA, whilst I've been testing with NVDA,
> System Access and Window-Eyes.  All the screen readers work slightly
> differently, but NVDA and System Access are virtually identical and very
> good.  I've found WE to be much more flexible, but I will need to use the
> Hot Spot app for some simple macros to get things the way I want them.
> 
> Tom had offered to test using JAWS, but because of the speed Scott works,
> all the changes have been done.  If there is an experienced AC Log user
> using JAWS, and you'd like to run some quick tests, please let me know
ASAP.
> I say 'experienced' with AC Log, as you will need to know how the log
works
> yourself with little or no training <smile>!
>  
> All in all, it's been an interesting exercise, and it's been a pleasure to
> work with Scott N3FJP.  Once the 4.2 version is live, I'll record some
> training MP3s.
> 
> 
> Best wishes, Kelvin Marsh - M0AID
> 
> Working to improve accessibility for radio amateurs with disabilities
> 
> www.active-elements.org
> 
> For accessibility evaluations of amateur equipment and MP3 manuals



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