Hi, I posted a few minutes ago about this issue, and I think that it may
have been my card.  I am at the hospital now like I said, and I do have a
card that was a little shakey, but when I hold one side of it together
Pine seems to behave itself.  I still can't figure out why the rest of my
connections would act fine, and telnet and particularly Pine would give me
such a hard time.





On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Jeff Kenyon wrote:

> Hi Clarence, the problem persists with all three programs I use.  I am at
> the hospital now today, and have brought the laptop and will try and see
> what happens later on today.
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> On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Clarence wrote:
>
> > Hi Jeff and the group,
> > I have never heard of anyone blocking telnet.  It is usually the
> > responcibility of the system manager to stop the service, which simply
> > causes the server to refuse telnet connections.  Since the period is so
> > short, I suspect that you have a problem with your telnet client.  You might
> > try another client.  I use a program called termpro.  I like it, and it
> > does work ok with speech.
> > I hope this helps.
> > 73s,
> > Clarence
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Kenyon" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: off topic, but need help trouble shooting telnet connection
> > problem
> >
> >
> > > Hi Clarence and the group.  Do you think that this was something on
> > > Comcast's end?  We don't have the time to play around with the modem or
> > > anything like that, and I am lucky if I get to have JFW read through a
> > > screen with messages and who they are from without having it drop.  I have
> > > resolved to just manually scrol the messages, and to check them that way
> > > for now.  People may think that I am a bit strange, but I still believe in
> > > telnet and shell accounts, even in this day in age with Windows and
> > > advances in screen readers.  As for at work where I volunteer at now which
> > > is a Children's Hospital in Michigan I telnet from there all the time and
> > > have never had a problem or anyone say anything to me about it.  I know
> > > that in some places telneting is a big "no-no", but I have yet to run into
> > > some place that blocks you from doing it.  As for the rest of my
> > > connections like IE or my VPN connection which allows me to check my
> > > hospital E-mail from home it has behaved itself perfectly, and this is
> > > usually a problem with wireless connections.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Clarence wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Jeff and the group,
> > >> There are two possibilities.  The first one is what Lou said.  The server
> > >> is
> > >> configured to terminate any connection that is inactive for a period of
> > >> time.  We still do this at work on one server.  The other one is a bit
> > >> more
> > >> difficult to explain.  But, it goes something like this.  Some firewalls
> > >> are
> > >> configured to terminate connections that are made thru them when the
> > >> conection has been inactive for a period of time.  The pix firewall is
> > >> one
> > >> such animal.  The connection isn't really terminated, but is dropped from
> > >> the internal tables of the firewall.  It is possible that this to free up
> > >> memory space in the firewall.  I know that this is a poor explaination.
> > >> But
> > >> I also know that this happens to me at work a bit if I telenet into a
> > >> system
> > >> that is behind such a firewall.  The best way to avoid this is to hit a
> > >> key
> > >> every 10 minutes or so.  If the connection is dropped, you can hit the
> > >> ctrl/] key combination to break the connection and log in again.
> > >>
> > >> 73s,
> > >> Clarence
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Jeff Kenyon" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 10:45 AM
> > >> Subject: off topic, but need help trouble shooting telnet connection
> > >> problem
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Hi everyone, I have posted this issue to the blind-l list, and am still
> > >> > trying to figure out this problem out.  I currently am getting to this
> > >> > E-mail account here via a telnet connection, and I have always found it
> > >> > to
> > >> > be very helpful, especially when I am not at my home PC and I want to
> > >> > access my mail from some place else.  However, I have had a problem
> > >> > when
> > >> > telneting in to this account from home and sometimes when I am in Pine.
> > >> > What is happening is is that after a period of inactivity this
> > >> > connection
> > >> > will stop responding to my commands, and all of the rest of my Internet
> > >> > connections are wroking fine.  I have done a ping and a tracerout to
> > >> > this
> > >> > ISP I am posting from now, but with no luck.  I don't have this problem
> > >> > from other computers like at work, but this only appears to be a Pine
> > >> > issue.  Also, I am telneting into here from Comcast, and I am wondering
> > >> > if
> > >> > this may be part of the problem?  Also, does anyone know of other
> > >> > telnet
> > >> > cites I could try out and compare to this one?
> > >>
> >
>