Jim,
good points and you're right, scan would do more than the audio tone..
73s
tom Fowle WA6IVG

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:40:27PM -0600, Jim Shaffer wrote:
> I've heard a couple of pretty good ideas for audible pan adapters.  However, 
> I'm not convinced that any audible pan adapter will be significantly easier 
> to use than the current scan function.  You scan the band, and as soon as 
> you hear a signal, you hit a key, F2 by default, and that pauses the scan, 
> and you'll be very close to the signal you want.  Since there are usually a 
> limited number of braille cells, 40 in my case, the braille pan adapter 
> doesn't land you exactly where you want to be anyway.
> 
> With the audio pan adapter, you're still having to essentially linearly scan 
> in some direction, as opposed to getting a panaramic view, which you can get 
> with a tactile line.
> 
> In fact, there is one advantage of the scan over the pan adapter, which is 
> that you might, with the scan, be able to distinguish an amateur 
> transmission from a birdy, for example.
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Tom Fowle
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 9:37 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: JJRadio now supports the Flex 6300
> 
> Jim,
> Just a thought about a possible means of doing an audible pan adapter.
> 
> If you have stereo sound out capabilities, you could present a tone whose
> relative pitch representes signal strength and whose stereo position
> represents frequency.  it could scan rather quickly left to right in how
> ever many stereo positions you think practical.  It could have this
> automatic scan function or a key controlled manual scan position, and
> duplicate the usual pan adapter ability to stop the scan and put the radio
> on the represented frequency.
> 
> Just how I'd approach it.
> Ain't it nice of me to give you more work with which I can't help <GRIN>
> 73s and much respect for your work on this project.
> tom Fowle WA6IVG
> 
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:43:38PM -0600, Jim Shaffer wrote:
> > Ron, a couple of things.  First of all, and this is probably obvious to 
> > most
> > folks, but JJRadio supports a refreshable braille display as opposed to a
> > braille printer, which I think of as a device that prints braille on 
> > paper.
> >
> > Secondly, I've tried to come up with a way to do an audio pan adapter, and
> > then realized it's best done by the scan feature already present in 
> > JJRadio.
> > I think a pan adapter is truly a visual thing, and the best way to do that
> > is with a braille display.  So, without a braille display, the pan adapter
> > is useless in JJRadio, and will remain so as far as I can imagine. 
> > However,
> > the scanning feature will work nicely, because it allows you to pause the
> > scan, look around, and then either resume  the scan or end it.  You can 
> > also
> > save and recall scans, allowing you to define, and quickly recall, scans 
> > for
> > the areas you wish to scan.
> >
> > hth
> > --
> > Jim, KE5AL
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: Dr. Ronald E. Milliman
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 11:28 AM
> > To: 'Jim Shaffer'
> > Cc: 'For blind ham radio operators'
> > Subject: RE: JJRadio now supports the Flex 6300
> >
> > Jim, again, just as an observation, you place almost total emphasis on
> > Braille output. I don't know how many of us have Braille printers, but I
> > suspect many more of us have speech output as opposed to a Braille printer
> > for outputting the program's information. If you symbolize signal strength
> > in terms of the number of Braille dots, how do you express signal strength
> > for screen readers?
> >
> > Jim, once again, I highly commend you for your investment of time and
> > efforts in creating and providing your J J Radio program. It appears to be
> > an especially major benefit for blind access to the Flex transceiver.
> >
> > Ron, K8HSY
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > On Behalf Of Jim Shaffer
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:51 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: JJRadio now supports the Flex 6300
> >
> > Don, a well thought out set of questions.
> >
> > > 1. what kind of access do we have to the radios features such as
> > > controlling noise reduction, manipulating filters IF shift ect.
> >
> > You can control the AGC speed and level, the low and high filter 
> > bandwidth,
> > the CW APF, autopeaking filter, the automatic notch filter, the noise
> > blanker and noise reduction.  You can control the filtering on the other
> > rigs as well, not just the Flex.
> >
> > On the Flex, you can also define and adjust their tracking notch filters,
> > TNFs.  In brief, these are filters that maintain their position, and are
> > handy for filtering out fixed position birdies and carriers.
> >
> > > 2. Can we adctually define a filter on the fly?
> >
> > See above.
> >
> > > 3. What kinds of things can't be done at this point that you see
> > > posibility for in the future.
> >
> > Well, at present, JJRadio doesn't support saving/restoring multiple
> > configurations, and only supports one profile.  The Flex allows you to, 
> > for
> > example, save multiple configurations in profiles, and then load those
> > depending on what you want to do.  For example, you might have rag chew
> > settings that equalize the audio for quality, and then DX settings that
> > equalize the audio for maximum punch.
> >
> > One thing I plan to do soon concerns how signal strength is shown in the 
> > pan
> > adapter.  Currently, the strength shown is relative to what's on the air 
> > at
> > the time.  I use the number of dots in a cell to indicate signal strength,
> > using 1 to 6 dots, 1 for the noise floor, and 6 for the strongest signal 
> > on
> > the band.  So, if you have a quiet band, you'll see perhaps a 6-dot signal
> > which is really very weak, or even just some relatively quiet noise.  I 
> > want
> > to change this so that more dots represent a truly stronger signal.  I 
> > hope
> > that made sense.
> >
> > > 4. What kinds of things  (features) does the radio offer that you
> > > think we will never be able to take advantage of?
> >
> > The pan adapter allows you to not only view what's happening on the band
> > now, but what has happened over a period of time.  I'm not sure how to
> > represent all that information in a useable form with one line of braille.
> > Even using multiple lines, with a one-line display, the information would 
> > be
> > out of date by the time you viewed it.
> > --
> > Jim, KE5AL
> >
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