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Gerry Learry <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Thu, 6 Dec 2012 16:43:45 -0700
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So each element was drilled in 2 places so that it was held on by the Clamp 
bolts?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: A SHORT VERTICAL FOR THE TOP BAND


> Gerry,
>
> The X atop the capacity hat was created by using simple u clamps.  I 
> drilled
> them originally to clamp around a boom from a 6 meter beam.  So they were
> centered and I clamped on right above the other but at right angles so it
> looked more like a wide spaced X.
>
> Phil.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gerry Learry" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 4:55 AM
> Subject: Re: A SHORT VERTICAL FOR THE TOP BAND
>
>
>> So how did you attach the horizontal elements to the tube?  Did you drill
>> through the tube at 2 apposing angles?  Did you flatten the center of the
>> two elements and screw them together?  The rest is easy for me to
>> understand.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: A SHORT VERTICAL FOR THE TOP BAND
>>
>>
>>> Gerry,
>>>
>>> I was flying blind, sort of speak, by the seat of my pants, building 
>>> this
>>> vertical and pieced together things I had picked up discussing antennas
>>> with
>>> other hams so don't feel bad about not getting how it was assembled.  I
>>> made
>>> the vertical antenna in two pieces in order to climb up to the roof on 
>>> my
>>> tower bolted to the back of the house.  The antenna was bolted to the
>>> other
>>> end of the roof so I could get right to it as needed for fine tuning.
>>> Right
>>> about roof level, the first section stuck up, therefore about a foot or
>>> two
>>> over the peak of the roof.  The second section of antenna was made up of
>>> three parts.  Two pieces of tubing, one short and one longer, and 
>>> between
>>> the two was a coil form with wire wrapped around it.  It was insulated
>>> wire
>>> and I used about three feet of PVC tubing as my coil form.  The longer
>>> piece
>>> of tubing that served as the bottom of the assembly, I think it was 7
>>> feet
>>> of aluminum tubing, I stuck up inside the bottom of the PVC pipe the 
>>> wire
>>> was wound around, or coiled, around.  It was wrapped closely, like a 
>>> bull
>>> constrictor snake, because the wire, as I mentioned, was insulated and I
>>> was
>>> only running 100 watts.  So that insured there would be no arking when
>>> transmitting.  If you run higher levels of power, it is best to use 
>>> coax,
>>> the heavier the better, based upon the power, because the voltage is 
>>> very
>>> high on the coil when transmitting.  Next, I took another 3 foot length
>>> of
>>> aluminum tubing and stuck it inside the top of the pvc pipe.  The pvc
>>> pipe
>>> was big enough so I could drill into the tubing and the pvc pipe to hold
>>> the
>>> bottom tubing and the top tubing to the pipe or coil of wire.  This is
>>> all
>>> vertical so far.  The signal, therefore, had to pass through the coil
>>> before
>>> getting above the pvc pipe to the top hat, which was the difference
>>> between
>>> 32 and about 130 feet; which is a quarter wave on 160 meters.  About 98
>>> feet
>>> of coil wire in other words.  The horizontal part of the top hat is also
>>> aluminum tubing whereby I used simple hardware clamps to clamp them in
>>> the
>>> shape of the letter X at the top of everything, that is, at the very tip
>>> of
>>> the tubing.  The reason I made the whole top assembly separate, was so I
>>> could climb the roof, walk over to the vertical clamped to the end of 
>>> the
>>> peak of the roof, and loosen another clamp which held the whole top
>>> assembly
>>> in place.  Once I put the X on top, I didn't have to raise or lower the
>>> top
>>> assembly more than once or twice to get the antenna to resonate where I
>>> wanted it in the CW portion of 160 meters.  It was fun making it, I
>>> learned
>>> a lot, and from that time on, when I put up a bigger tower that same 
>>> year
>>> but in this house we bought that year, I really got into all kinds of
>>> wires
>>> and loops and shunt feeding my tower, and trying phased verticals and
>>> wire
>>> antennas.
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>> K0NX
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Gerry Learry" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 7:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: A SHORT VERTICAL FOR THE TOP BAND
>>>
>>>
>>>>I don't understand how it is assembled or connected to the top of the
>>>> antenna.  I understand that the two elements are in a X pattern and 
>>>> they
>>>> are
>>>> both horizontal, but I don't understand the mechanics.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: A SHORT VERTICAL FOR THE TOP BAND
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Gerry,
>>>>>
>>>>> What specifically were you asking about as far as the capacity hat is
>>>>> concerned?
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil.
>>>>> K0NX
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Gerry Learry" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 3:39 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: A SHORT VERTICAL FOR THE TOP BAND
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you describe the construction of the top hat a little more?
>>>>
>> 

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