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It might be reasonable, but this rig is still under warrantee.
To offer that instead of fixing the problem, is kind of like "bate and
switch".


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Jim Shaffer
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:11 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG

Actually a price of $600 doesn't seem excessive to me.  If you consider what
you'd spend just selling a used TS-590S that worked, and then buying a new
sg, it would probably be around a $600 difference.  Given this is a
non-working rig, $600 sounds reasonable.
--
Jim, ke5al
-----Original Message-----
From: Butch Bussen
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:10 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG

That sounds like to much.  How long have you had this radio?  If you can,
I'd dispute the charge with your credit card company and go shopping for a
gs elsewhere.  BTW, there are no differences in controls on the front
pannel, a few menu changes.  I haven't heard anything about transmit audio
either, a little better receiver performance.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Mon, 3 Aug
2015, Dr. Ronald E. Milliman wrote:

> Well, the defective TS-590S is on its way back to R&L Electronics. We 
> shall see what they tell me when they receive it and check it out for 
> themselves.
> If I can work out a deal where it doesn't cost me a ton of money, I'm 
> going to up-grade to the TS-590SG model. However, the first fellow I 
> talked to wasn't the head honcho, and when I talked later to the top 
> guy, he was so willing to work with me on just up-grading to the new 
> model with my paying a reasonable difference. Nothing has been decided 
> yet, but I got the strong impression that it might end up costing me 
> $600 to $700 difference to get the TS-590SG. Like Pat said, for those 
> kinds of dollars, I could buy a new MFJ 998 automatic antenna tuner!
>
> Thanks again guys for all your feedback and help!
>
> Ron, K8HSY
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 4:40 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
>
> For what it's worth, I second Jim and Butch on this one!
>
> Besides, then, we'll have another expert on the new TS590SG on the 
> list who can assist the rest of us on its inner workings as time 
> progresses.
> (smile)
>
> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Jim Shaffer
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 1:37 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
>
> Ron, I'd take the new sg deal in a heart beat.  You won't get your 
> TS-590S fixed for nothing in any case.  It sounds like they're making 
> you a very reasonable offer.
> --
> Jim, ke5al
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dr. Ronald E. Milliman
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 12:07 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
>
> Butch, thanks for your reply. I've read several reviews since sending 
> out my earlier post to the list this morning, and all of the reviews I 
> read where people had firsthand experience with both models of the 
> TS-590, say the TS-590SG is quite a bit better, both the transmitter 
> audio quality and the receiver's sensitivity and selectivity. As much 
> as I like my other TS-590s, the one I have at the lake, I can't 
> imagine how the newer model could be that much better, but evidently 
> it is.
>
> Ron, K8HSY
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 11:34 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
>
> There is a review which discusses the differences in I think July q s t.
>  I don't think the controls are different, they've changed receiver a 
> bit, and allow you to split off the antenna for another receiver.  I'd 
> probably pay the differnece just to avoid the delay.  Good luck.
> 73
> Butch
> WA0VJR
> Node 3148
> Wallace, ks.
>
>
> On Mon, 3
> Aug 2015, Dr. Ronald E. Milliman wrote:
>
>> I just got off the phone with R&L Electronics concerning my defective 
>> TS-590s. We are discussing two options:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.       Send my defective transceiver back and have it repaired or
> replaced
>> under the warranty or
>>
>>
>>
>> 2.       Send it back and have it replaced with a new TS-590SG with my
>> paying the difference of between $250 and $300.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do any of you have any experience with the two models; that is, do 
>> any of you have any knowledge of whether the TS-590SG is worth the 
>> $250 or
>> $300 difference I would have to pay to get the newest model?
>>
>>
>>
>> The issue came up when R&L told me that they didn't have any TS-590's 
>> in stock to send me if my current one had to be replaced. However, 
>> they have 3
>>
>> TS-590SG models in stock, which they could ship out as soon as they 
>> received mine. They also said that since they didn't have any TS-590s 
>> units that they would most likely just turn around and re-ship my 
>> defective radio to Kenwood for repair, and if that were the case, 
>> they would have me just send mine back directly to Kenwood to begin with.
>> So, something that seems so simple turns out to be a bit complicated.
>>
>>
>>
>> The real question is .
>>
>>
>>
>> Is the newest TS-590SG worth the difference I would have to pay if I 
>> were to have R&L simply ship me out the newest model rather than 
>> waiting to have mine repaired???
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm leaning toward just having my TS-590 repaired and sent back to me 
>> since I already have another TS-590s and I am extremely familiar with 
>> that model, rather than having two different models that have 
>> slightly different controls and menu selections. Though I don't feel 
>> strongly either way. Any recommendations???
>>
>>
>>
>> Ron, K8HSY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr. Ronald E. Milliman
>>
>> Retired Professor of Marketing
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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