Hey Phil, thank you very much. I really appreciate for link. I didn't realize that you were in the Denver area, we should get together sometime and play with radios.

Sent from my iPhone this time 

> On Oct 21, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Gerry and others,
> 
> www.MacForTheBlind.com
> 
> Has several mac and IOS tutorials and one is specifically on email.  John 
> does a great job in his digital audio Mac tutorials.  I'd be glad to share 
> what I know about it, Gerry, but John's tutorials are first class and he is 
> also an authorized Apple tech support type guy and really knows Apple 
> products and their usage.
> 
> The KX3 is pretty cool.  I did not know that about the Icom 7000 and the ham 
> pod, but I did know N4PY has software that works with the 7000.
> 
> I certainly understand the frustration with getting started with any new 
> phone or product but that tutorials are really great and he is adding to 
> them frequently.
> 
> Phil.
> K0NX
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gerry Leary" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Sideband Audio
> 
> 
>> Hello Phil, I found the same thing and still find the same thing to him 
>> band=
>> s. Now that I have an allograft KX three and a ham pod I can set most of 
>> the=
>> things in the radio by myself. I have been contesting with myself to set 
>> my=
>> radio so that I don't have to use phonetics for my call sign. Also in this 
>> r=
>> adio I can turn the monitor on and actually listen to what I sound like. I 
>> h=
>> ave found that the cleaner I get my audio the better my queue RP signal 
>> is. T=
>> his queue RP stuff has gotten me addicted and I'm having an extreme amount 
>> o=
>> f fun with it. So much fun but I haven't bothered playing with the 100 W 
>> bui=
>> ld craft amplifier. Did you know that Rob Santello is working on software 
>> so=
>> that the him pod can control the ICOM 7000? I sold my I come 706, and my I 
>> c=
>> ome 7000 earlier this year.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone this time=20
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> 
>>> wrote=
>> :
>>> =20
>>> Sideband audio has been a thing of controversy as long as I've had a 
>>> phone=
>> =20
>>> license which happened in November 1966.  Now, every rig comes with=20
>>> bandwidth adjustments, ALC setting capability, and audio compression. 
>>> Whe=
>> n=20
>>> I was a novice is April of 1966, I heard we had 150,000 American hams. 
>>> I=20=
>> 
>>> forget the last count I heard but it was hundreds of thousands more 
>>> than=20=
>> 
>>> that now.  Yet, I am convinced sideband audio is worse today than with 
>>> the=
>> =20
>>> old rigs of years ago.  Now, guys have hundreds of dollars invested in 
>>> hig=
>> h=20
>>> dollar microphones and equalizers, not to mention their audio 
>>> bandwidth=20=
>> 
>>> settings, compressions, gain and ALC settings and we still can't get 
>>> it=20=
>> 
>>> right.  I am amazed at the number of daily signals I run across that 
>>> are=20=
>> 
>>> nothing short of trash radio and when the CQ WW sideband contest comes up 
>>> a=
>> t=20
>>> the end of this month, you can't help but hear what I am talking about. 
>>> I=
>> =20
>>> started out with a Viking Ranger 1 and 65 watts of A M but my borrowed=20
>>> microphone was wired wrong, so I never made an A M contact with that 
>>> range=
>> r=20
>>> because my mom bought me a Drake TR4 for Christmas and I was able to get 
>>> i=
>> t=20
>>> on the air for the Christmas holidays during those two weeks, or three, 
>>> ou=
>> t=20
>>> of school.  By far, the majority of sideband signals have good audio but 
>>> I=
>> =20
>>> am amazed, as already stated, how horribly screwed up guys can get 
>>> their=20=
>> 
>>> audio to sounds with expensive transceivers.  I was tuning 20 phone a 
>>> few=20=
>> 
>>> days ago and ran across a W5, about S9, with clean audio.  I stopped 
>>> to=20=
>> 
>>> listen.  He turned it over to a friend he apparently has known for 
>>> some=20=
>> 
>>> time.  I could not, even after 5 minutes of tuning up and down and 
>>> across=20=
>> 
>>> his signal, fine tune his audio to where I could actually understand 
>>> his=20=
>> 
>>> words.  His signal must have been tuned to the most narrow setting of=20
>>> bandwidth, and his compressor was so tight, I simply could only get about 
>>> 1=
>> =20
>>> out of every five words.  He sounded like he was talking into a empty 
>>> beer=
>> =20
>>> can.  I could tell his W5 friend was understanding him better than I was 
>>> b=
>> ut=20
>>> not much better.  When I was tuning the 75 meter band one morning at age 
>>> 1=
>> 5,=20
>>> I had been up almost all night hamming.  It was nearing sunrise when I 
>>> tun=
>> ed=20
>>> across a very strong S9 signal who was 15 KHz either side of zero beat. 
>>> I=
>> =20
>>> was taught that gentleman hams told others if their audio was bad and 
>>> offe=
>> r=20
>>> to help them make changes to get it sounding better if they asked.  I 
>>> don'=
>> t=20
>>> do that any more because of how guys fly off the handle when you tell 
>>> them=
>> =20
>>> they need to work on their audio.  If it is a friend, I will, but 
>>> otherwis=
>> e,=20
>>> I leave people alone now.  As I was saying, this guy was 30 KHz wide=20
>>> overall.  I broke in and told him of my findings.  Oh, by the way, the 
>>> fla=
>> t=20
>>> plate, called the skirt, behind the Drake TR4 VFO knob I had marked 
>>> with=20=
>> 
>>> half strips, in width, of dymo tape.  Every 5 KHz, I had those pieces 
>>> of=20=
>> 
>>> plastic tape sticking up a quarter of an inch above the edge of the 
>>> skirt.=
>> =20
>>> Those strips of tape that were flat against the skirt were 1 KHz.  I had 
>>> a=
>> =20
>>> friend with a Collins KWM2 challenge me by naming frequencies on 15 
>>> meters=
>> =20
>>> one day, he lived a mile from my house, to see how close I got to his 
>>> reed=
>> =20
>>> out.  We went to 3 frequencies and each time he said, according to his 
>>> dia=
>> l,=20
>>> I was 200 Hz off.  Of course, this was during analogue days and long 
>>> befor=
>> e=20
>>> digital read outs.  Collins had great analogue dials back then.  I think 
>>> a=
>> =20
>>> blind guy told me he did the same type of taping on the skirt behind the 
>>> V=
>> FO=20
>>> knob on his Drake Twins, too.  Anyhow, I got off the track.  The guy 
>>> that=20=
>> 
>>> was so wide on 75 meters was very friendly and said he appreciated me 
>>> taki=
>> ng=20
>>> time to give him that report about his audio.  I found out he was 
>>> running=20=
>> 
>>> the HT37 and since we ran one of those on sideband at the school for 
>>> the=20=
>> 
>>> blind in Nebraska, I knew exactly how easy it was to widen out your 
>>> signal=
>> =20
>>> with one of those rigs.  This guy had no ALC to help control over 
>>> driving=20=
>> 
>>> his rig so he was as wide as a barn door without realizing it.  Now, if I 
>>> a=
>> m=20
>>> 5 KHz away from a 20 over S9 signal with my Icom 7000, I cannot hear 
>>> any=20=
>> 
>>> splatter, even if they were running 3 KHz of band width for modulation. 
>>> I=
>> =20
>>> can hear some splatter if he is 5 KHz away and 30 over S9 but rarely 
>>> can=20=
>> 
>>> anyone reach 30 over on my meter.  A 10 over S9 signal is a loud signal 
>>> fo=
>> r=20
>>> me on my radio now.  Anyhow, my point is that with all the software 
>>> driven=
>> =20
>>> radios today, and all the compressors, and band width control, and 
>>> high=20=
>> 
>>> dollar microphones, and equalizers, I can't figure out why guys can't 
>>> get=20=
>> 
>>> their sideband signal to sound clean.  The real test is during Sweep 
>>> State=
>> s=20
>>> phone.  Man, if you live here and point a beam west, you are going to 
>>> hear=
>> =20
>>> signals that sound like a mobile sitting in your front yard.
>>> =20
>>> Phil.
>>> K0NX
>>