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john vernaleken <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:59:49 -0400
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Hello again Lou,

I hope you do not mind me picking your brain about the Titan.

I am rethinking  mounting on roof for the reasons you mentioned. But now I 
have other questions.

Since we have a dog I would rather not do a ground mounting.

I have a shed at the back of yard and am thinking  about mounting a mast on 
side and mounting antenna. How high of the ground would it have to be so the 
four counterpoise would high enough to be out of reach.

John  KC2QJB

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: Cushcraft R8 Revisited


> Not as long as you have a very secure mounting structure and guy it.  It 
> is
> pretty tall, and heavy, and there is a lot of antenna to catch the
> wind.  We had looked at doing something similar here, but decided that
> placing it in the back yard would be easier.  It also made the antenna 
> much
> less obtrusive.  The neighbors have been super here, but I don't want to
> push the point.
>
> Anyway, it should work well up there as long as you give it a very strong
> mounting structure.
>
> 73, de Lou K2LKK
>
>
>
>
>
> At 05:53 PM 3/18/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>>Hello Lou,
>>After reading your comments I looked up reviews on Titan and all were
>>positive. Since you have a Titan and have more experience than me I have a
>>question.
>>
>>Do you see a problem if I mount on a mast on side of house above roof 
>>line?
>>
>>Thanks
>>John KC2QJB
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 1:24 PM
>>Subject: Re: Cushcraft R8 Revisited
>>
>>
>> > Hi Steve.
>> >
>> > I think you'll be happy with the performance on the upper bands with 
>> > that
>> > antenna.  It's achilles heel is that it is tricky to tune on 40 meters,
>> > but
>> > is a good antenna otherwise.  It is, however, quite involved to 
>> > assemble,
>> > and it is a big and heavy antenna, so you'll want to give some serious
>> > thought to how you want to mount it.  I used the tilt-over base that 
>> > GAP
>> > makes for the Titan, and mixed up four 80 pound bags of concrete to 
>> > mount
>> > the base in.  The base, itself, is very ruggedly constructed.
>> >
>> > The other difficulty that I had was that I had a capacitor that plugs 
>> > into
>> > the top of the antenna fail, making it impossible to load on 80
>> > meters.  When I called GAP Technical Support, I was told that it was a
>> > common failure that is usually caused by rain penetrating the weather 
>> > boot
>> > on the top of the antenna.  When I pulled the antenna down, I found out
>> > that sure enough the weather boot had broken down leaving the capacitor
>> > exposed.  A 35 mm film can was just the right size to fit over the end 
>> > of
>> > the antenna, and once secured and sealed up, I've had no further 
>> > trouble
>> > with it.
>> >
>> > 73, de Lou K2LKK
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 11:18 AM 3/18/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>> >>Lou,
>> >>
>> >>I've been thinking about a Gap for a while now, but want to know how 
>> >>well
>> >>it
>> >>works before I rush out and buy one.   I'm particularly interested in 
>> >>its
>> >>performance on 20 meters and above.  At present, I'm using a Cobra
>> >>Ultralite
>> >>Senior, which is an all-band folded dipole.
>> >>
>> >>Steve
>> >>
>> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >>From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 17:43
>> >>Subject: Re: Cushcraft R8 Revisited
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hi.
>> >> >
>> >> > That depends upon the vertical antenna.  The ones that are supposed 
>> >> > to
>> >> > act
>> >> > as an electrical quarterwave do require a ground or radials, but a 
>> >> > few
>> >> > are
>> >> > designed to function electrically as a vertical dipole, and these do
>> >> > not
>> >> > require a radial system.  For example, I run the GAP Titan, which 
>> >> > uses
>> >> > this
>> >> > design and does not need radials.
>> >> >
>> >> > The Cushcraft R5, R7, and R8 antennas also fall into this category 
>> >> > and
>> >> > do
>> >> > not require radials.
>> >> >
>> >> > 73, de Lou K2LKK
>> >> >
>> >> > At 01:18 PM 3/17/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>> >> >>Hi John;
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I don't know much about vertical antennas however, the ground 
>> >> >>radials
>> >> >>are
>> >> >>the other half of the antenna.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Without ground radials, a vertical antenna is not real effective.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>73 De Anthony W2AJV
>> >> >>[log in to unmask]
>> >> >>ECHOLINK NODE NUMBER: 74389
>> >> >>
>> >> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>From: "John Vernaleken" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >>Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:04 PM
>> >> >>Subject: [BLIND-HAMS] Cushcraft R8 Revisited
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Since I do not have room for something like a G5RV or Carolina 
>> >> >>Windom I
>> >> >>a
>> >> >>m
>> >> >>thinking about a Cushcraft R8.  I would prefer not to have ground
>> >> >>radials
>> >> >>,
>> >> >>that is why I am looking at the R8.
>> >> >>Any feedback would be helpfull.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Thanks
>> >> >>John  KC2QJB
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>--
>> >> >>No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> >>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> >> >>Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.13/725 - Release Date:
>> >> >>3/17/2007
>> >> >>12:33 PM
>> >> >
>> >> > Louis Kim Kline
>> >> > A.R.S. K2LKK
>> >> > Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> >> > Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> >> > Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5753
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> >>Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.13/726 - Release Date: 
>> >>3/18/2007
>> >>3:34 PM
>> >
>> > Louis Kim Kline
>> > A.R.S. K2LKK
>> > Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> > Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> > Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5753
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>No virus found in this incoming message.
>>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.13/726 - Release Date: 3/18/2007
>>3:34 PM
>
> Louis Kim Kline
> A.R.S. K2LKK
> Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5753
> 

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