You make my point for me as regards free (as in liberty) software. Even though the developer pulled the source, naughty naughty, some folks had it. As it was licensed under a free software license, development continued under other projects, notably, the Qube.
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On Dec 24, 2012, at 10:19 AM, John Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> The developer of qwitter was sincere too and look what happened with that. A
> tantrum, a hissy fit, and pulling the program. I can't say I blame him
> knowing the situation, but still, if it happened there, it can happen with
> NVDA, anywhere if they've had enough. Having been in the business of
> building and fixing computers, sometimes I think labor costs are more for
> dealing with the people than doing the work, I never found the computer with
> enough time I couldn't get going. I found many people who I couldn't deal
> with though.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ronald E. Milliman" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 9:12 AM
> Subject: Re: screen readers
>
>
>> The two fellows that originally developed and is currently maintaining
>> NDVA
>> seem to be totally sincere in their dedication to always providing a very
>> excellent free screen reading program. They have some funding from some
>> major firms in the industry, but they also depend some on individual
>> contributions. Since it is open source software, and since several highly
>> qualified people are assisting them in the on-going development of the
>> product, I suspect it will be around for quite some time in the future.
>>
>> The largest challenge, in my opinion, is whether free products like NVDA,
>> or even costly programs like JAWS, will continue to keep up with the
>> rapidly changing technology and even be needed at some point, not that far
>> in the future. We are seeing signs that computers, as we have known them
>> are soon to be totally obsolete. With the availability of totally
>> accessible, off the shelf devices, such as the iPhone, iPad, iPod, Apple
>> TV, I question how much longer there will be a need for programs like
>> JAWS.
>> Oh, I am not suggesting JAWS and WindowEyes will no longer exist in five
>> years, but in ten years, that might be an entirely different issue. Input
>> and output using total Voice and thought activation and even thought
>> interaction with our devices is not out of the question within a very few
>> years.
>>
>> Ron, K8HSY
>>
>>
>> At 07:32 AM 12/24/2012 -0500, you wrote:
>>> The problem with the free ones is, they don't owe anyone anything, they
>>> get
>>> sick of complaints because of course people want perfection for free, so
>>> they get sick of the complaints and pull the plug leaving you scrambling
>>> to
>>> find something else and learn it. that's especially bad in a work
>>> environment. I've seen it happen and heard of it happening, thankfully
>>> never
>>> to me in a work environment personally though some of the fun programs
>>> I've
>>> used it's happened to.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 7:21 AM
>>> Subject: Re: screen readers
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have thought of the same questions many times.
>>>> And then to see agencies needlessly spending our tax payer money when
>>>> they
>>>> could put this technology in to the hands of three times as many clients
>>>> for
>>>> the same money, just makes me sick!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gary Tillinghast" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 8:32 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: screen readers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You would think that with the free screen reading software out there,
>>>>> you
>>>>> would think JAWS would be better in pricing. We all should drop it an
>>>>> go
>>>>> FREE! Gary KB2YAA What is the value of a hug if you don't share it?
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "KK4AHX Darren Duff" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 3:23 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: screen readers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It works great! I dropped jaws back in June and I use NVDA everyday
>>>>> now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 73.
>>>>> Darren Duff.
>>>>> amateur radio station KK4AHX.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vice President,
>>>>> Cherokee Amateur Radio Society.
>>>>> http://www.cherokeehams.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Cherokee County ARES.
>>>>> http://www.cherokee-ares.org
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Ronald E. Milliman
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 9:58 AM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: screen readers
>>>>>
>>>>> Re Free Screen Reading Programs...
>>>>>
>>>>> I am hearing really positive feedback about the NVDA screen reading
>>>>> program
>>>>> which is entirely free. I am not using it, but I am sure thinking
>>>>> seriously
>>>>> about switching over to it instead of shelling out bucks all of the
>>>>> time
>>>>> on
>>>>> this JAWS program. The one person I know who uses the NVDA screen
>>>>> reading
>>>>> program is Riley, KL3RH; so, you can check with him to see what he
>>>>> tells
>>>>> you
>>>>> about it. I think he uses JAWS too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron, K8HSY
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Ronald E. Milliman, retired Professor Western Kentucky University
>>>>>
>>>>> Chair, American Council of the Blind Public Relations Committee
>>>>>
>>>>> Chair, American Council of the Blind's Monthly Monetary Support Program
>>>>> (MMS) Committee
>>>
>> Dr. Ronald E. Milliman, retired Professor Western Kentucky University
>>
>> Chair, American Council of the Blind Public Relations Committee
>>
>> Chair, American Council of the Blind's Monthly Monetary Support Program
>> (MMS) Committee
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