If a vertical antenna is mounted on the roof of a home with a metal roof can 
the metal roof be used as radials?
John
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: Vertical antennas


> All verticals work better the higher off the ground they are.  I've used
> verticals ground mounted with thousands of feet of wire buried under the
> base and it worked well but still not as well as my old R7 mounted on a 3
> foot tripod on my roof.  So the bottom of the vertical is about 20 feet
> above ground.  It only uses a half a dozen small radials poked out of the
> base but it radiates extremely well on all bands.
>
> Phil.
>
> K0NX
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Vertical antennas
>
>
>> Phil,
>>
>> I've considered both alternatives, but I'm open to suggestions.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:32
>> Subject: Re: Vertical antennas
>>
>>
>>> Steve,
>>>
>>> Are you putting on a roof or ground mounting the antenna?
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>> K0NX
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 10:23 AM
>>> Subject: Vertical antennas
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm thinking about buying a vertical to use primarily on 20 through 6 =
>>>> meters.  I definitely don't want to mess around with radials, and right
>>>> =
>>>> now, I'm considering one of three antennas:  the Cushcraft MA6VA, the =
>>>> Cushcraft R6000, and the Cushcraft R8.  I realize the R8 also works on 
>>>> =
>>>> 40, which doesn't particularly interest me, but I'm willing to consider
>>>> =
>>>> it if it works significantly better than either of the other two =
>>>> antennas.
>>>>
>>>> Do any of you have any experience with the antennas I've mentioned, or 
>>>> =
>>>> with any other verticals that don't use radials?  I want to know the =
>>>> good, the bad, and the ugly, so don't hold back.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>
>>