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eric oyen <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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its called apple mail (or simply mail.app). this is for a mac (I don't use windows on this machine). I may have to dig into the settings and see if I can just send plain text for one list only.

as for the other guy, not sure what he's running either.

back to the subject of small loop antennas…. I set up one as part of a noise cancellation system (the MFJ-1025) and its the sampling antenna. THe main is my Windom OCF dipole. So far, I can screen out some of the noise in this location. Will need to learn how to adjust it by ear.

-eric

On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Dave Marthouse wrote:

> Buddy,
> 
> What E-Mail client are you using?
> 
> Dave Marthouse N2AAM
> [log in to unmask]
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of eric oyen
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:29 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Small loop antennas
> 
> I am not sure if my mail client (mail.app on OS X) does the same thing.
> also, is there a way to turn off mail echo so I don't see messages from =
> myself arriving back at my inbox?
> 
> DE N7zzt
> -eric
> 
> On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Steve wrote:
> 
>> Hey Buddy,
>> =20
>> Why can't you configure your email to conform to this list's =
> requirements?=20
>> Most clients do allow that, which would save a lot of whining and=20  
>> complaining by others?
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Buddy Brannan" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 4:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: Small loop antennas
>> =20
>> =20
>>> It definitely exists. What complicates it is this listserv=3D92s =
> inability =3D
>>> to handle modern text.=3D20
>>> --
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY =20 =20 =20  On Oct 21, 2013, 
>>> at 4:01 PM, Ron Yearns <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> =20
>>>> Interesting, yahoo comes up saying this group does not exist. ?????
>>>> Ron
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Buddy Brannan" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 1:45 PM
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Subject: Re: Small loop antennas
>>>> =3D20
>>>>> There are plans all over the place for these. One place to start 
>>>>> =3D
>>> would =3D3D
>>>>> be the magloop Yahoogroup:
>>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/magloop=3D3D20
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> --
>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY =3D20 =3D20 =3D20 On Oct 21, 
>>>>> 2013, at 1:59 PM, eric oyen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> does anyone happen to have the directions on how to make one of 
>>>>>> =3D
>>> these? =3D3D
>>>>> I =3D3D3D
>>>>>> have checked the ARRL website under antenna handbook, and that =
> =3D3D3D
>>>>>> information is in a graphical format. It would be nice to add one 
>>>>>> =
> of =3D
>>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> these to my burgeoning antenna farm. :) =3D3D20 DE N7ZZT eric 
>>>>>> =3D3D3D20 On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Colin McDonald wrote:
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> I believe in the magnetic loop antennas because I've heard them =
> on =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>>> the =3D3D3D
>>>>>> air=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>> and have used them a little as well.
>>>>>>> They perform as well as, or probably better than something like a 
>>>>>>> =
> =3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>> mobile=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>> antenna or screw driver or buddy poll etc.
>>>>>>> I think they can probably perform as well as a dipole in the =
> right =3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>> operating=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>> conditions and with good propigation as well.
>>>>>>> They're relatively easy to build, or buy, take up little room, =
> are =3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>> somewhat=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>> directional, and lend themselves well to qrp operation if that 
>>>>>>> =3D
>>> floats =3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>> your=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>> boat.
>>>>>>> The key to qrp operation is to use the other guys big antenna =
> lol.
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>> Colin, V A6BKX
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Jim Gammon" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 11:19 PM
>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> Subject: Small loop antennas
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Hi Colin, I have a friend who used a copper loop antenna 
>>>>>>>> approximately 36 inches in diameter to conduct DX with European 
>>>>>>>> stations using I think 10 watts.  He lived in an apartment and 
>>>>>>>> was using a digital protocol but I can't remember which one it 
>>>>>>>> was other than it wasn't PSK 31.  Pretty amazing stuff, but each 
>>>>>>>> contact takes a while, kind of like it will be when we have =
> folks
>>>>>>>> living on Mars! 73, Jim WA6EKS
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask] Date sent: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 
>>>>>>>> 22:42:00 -0600
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: interesting article =3D3D3D20 I have yet to hear 
>>>>>>>> one of these actually on the air.
>>>>>>>> The theory is logical, and the science supports it, but in real 
>>>>>>>> world performance I'm not sure how successful they've actually 
>>>>>>>> been so far.
>>>>>>>> The key to using a tiny HF antenna is to communicate with people 
>>>>>>>> who have big high gain antennas hi hi.
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>> Colin, V A6BKX
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:59 PM
>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> Subject: interesting article
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Here is a very interesting article on small HF antennas and the 
>>>>>>>> theory behind them.
>>>>>>>> PVC pipe and fruit cans, both readily available.
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/harteh/harteh.htm
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> H T Kaufman MSW LCSW
>>>>>>>> Adaptive Technology Instructor=3D3D3D20=3D20=20

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