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Got you salifou. Thanks for the elucidation.
PETER W.VAKUNTA
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BENJAMIN FRANKLIN
----- Original Message -----
From: Devine Akabutu <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Saturday, September 17, 2005 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: Yahoo! News Story - Judge: School Pledge Is
Unconstitutional - Yahoo! News
> This is the beauty of democracy. Sharing ideas and learning from
> each other. Maintain one's stand or shift in realization of new
> evidence or idea. No view is sacrosanct.
>
> Devine
>
> Wycliffe Kendagor <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hello,
> I think I totally agree with salifor on this.
> Cliff
>
> salifou issoufou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Peter,
>
> If schools were to be homogeneous, then I would be for prayers.
> The fact of the matter is public schools in America are not
> homogeneous, therefore I am not for prayers in those schools. If
> there is evidence that prayers in Churches, Synagogues, Mosques or
> Temples are creating a social catastrophe, then I would be against
> prayers. I have not heard or seen any such thing. Therefore I am
> for prayers in religious places. Mathematically, since I am for
> and against prayers depending on circumstances, I cannot be for
> them and against them at the same time, therefor I am neither for,
> nor against them.
>
> As you can guess from the aforementioned statements, I am not the
> type "with or against us." When making certain decisions, one has
> to consider many possibilities because of the circumstantial
> aspect of life, which I believe is behind the judge's decision.
>
> As for your question about standing for something, I do stand for
> something. Actually I stand for many things. They are called
> humanity, justice, freedom and social well being of all.
>
> Pushing for prayers in public schools is not different from
> discriminating against certain people based on their religion,
> which is unconstitutional. It is close to what is taking place in
> Lafollette High School in a sense that the student who are not
> Christians, would feel isolated if Christian-only type of prayer
> in public schools is mandated.
>
> To finish, I will borrow one of your phrases from the previous
> message: "I fear for some of us."
>
> My best regards to you and your family.
>
> Salifou
>
> PETER W VAKUNTA <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>
> Salifou,
> You got to decide man. Are for you prayers or not? If you stand for
> nothing, you will fall for everything! Of course, the whole idea of
> separating the state from the church is the carte blanche that
> must of
> us are now using to perpetrate all acts of indivinity on our children
> and against GOD. I fear for some of us.
>
>
> PETER W.VAKUNTA
> DEPARTMENT OF FRENCH AND ITALIAN
> UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN MADISON
> 602 VAN HISE HALL
> 1220 LINDEN DRIVE
> MADISON WI 53706-1525
> U.S.A
> Office 608 262 4067
> Home 608 422 6089
> Cell 608 381 0407
>
> "The heart of a fool is in his mouth, but the mouth of the wise
> man is
> in his heart."
> BENJAMIN FRANKLIN
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: salifou issoufou
> Date: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:25 pm
> Subject: Re: Yahoo! News Story - Judge: School Pledge Is
> Unconstitutional - Yahoo! News
>
> > Bro Wilmot,
> >
> > I know many devoted Christians who do not like hearing people
> > using the name of God or Jesus Christ just for the sake of
> > invoking those names.
> > On a different side, I know one Christian who not only likes to
> > use the name of God all over the place, but also likes to call for
> > inhumane acts to be perpetrated on a specific person, which
> > contradicts the basic foundations of Christianity as I know it.
> > This Christian is Pat Roberts.
> > Just because one does not give prayers to God, does not mean that
> > God will get angry and destroy all the life we cherish. Also, even
> > though America is a "Christian Nation," not all Americans are
> > Christians. Therefore even if the prayer is allowed in schools,
> > you cannot have a unified one, which, to me, makes it worse than
> > not having prayer at all (I am not saying having prayers in school
> > is a good thing, nor am I saying it is a bad thing).
> >
> > Salifou
> >
> > Wilmot Valhmu wrote:
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> >
> > Wilmot Valhmu ([log in to unmask]) has sent you a news article.
> > (Email address has not been verified.)
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > Personal message:
> >
> > Just when you thought...
> >
> > Well, just when you thought that this nation upholds the freedom
> > of religion, you see a concerted effort at eliminating the mention
> > of God or Jesus Christ from all public life.
> >
> > So, how soon will it be before it is criminal to mention Christ or
> > God in public?
> >
> > - Wilmot
> >
> > Judge: School Pledge Is Unconstitutional - Yahoo! News
> >
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050914/ap_on_re_us/pledge_of_allegiance
> >
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