Funny thing, John. My name doesn't appear anywhere in this article. BTW, why couldn't he marry the Egyptian girl in Egypt??? Because they have laws against this sort of thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://allafrica.com/stories/201005130391.html
Vanguard (Lagos)
Nigeria: Early Marriage, Threat to Girl-Child Education
Emmanuel Edukugho
13 May 2010
[John, Did I write this? No!!! Do you care about these women, or only about the males being able to buy whomever they wish, whatever the age?
"Some of the angry women groups referred to the scourge of Vesico Vaginal Fistula (VVF) with Nigeria having 800,000 out of the 2 million women suffering from the deadly disease globally. The VVF disease is mainly caused by early marriages to girls below 16 years."]
From the article: "With mixed reactions trailing the marriage of former Zamfara State governor, Senator Sani Ahmed Yerima to a 13-year old Egyptian girl, a professor of law in the University of Lagos has told Vanguard Education Weekly that early marriage can put an end to the education of the girl-child.
Professor Peter Fogam, Department of Commercial and Industrial Law, University of Lagos, decried a situation in which innocent female children supposed to be enjoying the warmth and affection of their parents are given out for marriage."
""That is the end of education for the child because she would be a parent if she becomes a mother at a tender age which is not the age for having children."
According to the law professor, "It is revolting to my conscience," to mention such a situation which cannot be seen as appropriate in this modern time.
Asked whether the Islamic religion does not frown against child marriage, Fogam replied thus:
"Religion is a cover for those who do this. I heard a muslim scholar saying that it is not only inappropriate considering the puberty period, but also that the child should be capable of consenting. Can a 13-year old consent to a marriage? It goes beyond religion.""
"His marriage to a 13-year old Egyptian girl after allegedly paying a bride price of 100,000 US dollars (N15 million) in a marriage ceremony which took place in Abuja because Egyptian laws prohibit marrying minors under 18 years, sparked a nationwide protest by women groups. They demanded his recall from the Senate. Although he defended his action on the ground that the marriage is not against his religion, many people disagreed.
Some of the angry women groups referred to the scourge of Vesico Vaginal Fistula (VVF) with Nigeria having 800,000 out of the 2 million women suffering from the deadly disease globally. The VVF disease is mainly caused by early marriages to girls below 16 years.
This is according to the survey by the United Nations Fund for Population Activities (UNFPA)."
On 06/07/10, John Stafford Anderson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Woof! Love your Hegemonial Approach. You take care of your own interests while speculating that your tiny point of view is the best for everyone involved. Take off your blinders, Vera, so that you can actually see the world. Would it be such a wonderful place if everyone could still be having fun and playing games at the age of 18?
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> John
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> On Jun 7, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Vera Crowell wrote:
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> > Increase in birthing ages? From age 13????
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> > John, either quit smoking that stuff or smoke some more because this in-between stage is totally not good for you and your thinking.
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> > John, I know you are duty-bound to choose a viewpoint opposite mine, but really, your post makes no sense.
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> > Urge to control women's bodies??? John, she's a child. Period.
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> > Obviously this issue is an issue, hence the child (repeat, child) protection laws. And yes, I understand about dowries & bride prices, but the fact is her family sold her for $100,000. Predators with money know they can buy most any child they want because the family more often than not needs the money.
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> > Quit trying to justify this. This has nothing to do with 'American sensibilities' only a desire to protect women from violation and abuse. There is no justification for this. I didn't write the child protection laws in Nigeria and neither did Americans. Obviously they realized the system needed to be changed and children needed protection against grown men.
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> > Tradition does not always mean right. It means tradition.
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> > It's scary that you don't see anything wrong with this. Really. Scary.
> > You really believe 13 year olds should be having babies???? Too much sun last week?
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> > On 06/07/10, John Stafford Anderson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> >> You are being wildly speculative about this, and it goes right along with your urges to control women's bodies. I am only advocating that the situation be examined fully, with sensitivity toward the culture, and without prejudice.
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> >> Nigeria is not the United States, and just because the United States recognizes something as a "problem," that does not mean the rest of the world should have to see it that way. Just because it sounds or looks like a peccadillo to your American sensibilities, does not mean that it really is.
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> >> Why do you assume that it is so horrible that the man is 50? Many women worldwide think that a man of substance and age makes an appealing partner. How do you know what happened to the marriage with the 17 year old? He would not have to divorce her to marry another woman. And where do you get this craziness that 13 year olds are not ready to reproduce? The increase in birth defects in the US partly attributed to an increase in birthing ages.
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> >> According to you, a woman would never choose to be this path, and you therefore automatically assume that she has no voice. I am just saying that you should consider everything before rushing in with missionary perspectives, urging arrest and psychiatric care for a situation you do not fully understand.
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> >> John
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> >> On Jun 7, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Vera Crowell wrote:
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> >>> John,
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> >>> Soooo, you are saying that it may be good that a 50-year old man abuses a 13-year old girl? You really believe she is physically ready for that? You really believe a 13-year old is fully cognizant of what marriage to a 50-year old man means? So she has her menses. So what. Her body isn't ready to carry a baby full-term.
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> >>> This man has a history of 'marriage' to children. That should be a problem. US laws don't allow anyone to get married under the age of 14 and in most states you need parental consent under the age of 18. If the female is pregnant they may have to get a doctor's statement certifying that which may negate the need for parental consent and in other states if they are both teens but the female already has a child, then they may not need parental consent.
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> >>> Do you have daughters, sisters, female cousins? Would you want them subjected to a 50-year old man at the age of 13??? Would you?
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> >>> The age of consent in Nigeria is 13. A marriage between 2 young people would be better than this old man forcing himself on this child. Look at his pattern. He married another child and divorced her at 17. Why? Maybe 17 is too old for him. He has a problem and needs to be arrested and put under psychiatric care.
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> >>> On 06/07/10, John Stafford Anderson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> >>>> According to the article...
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> >>>>>> Under child protection laws enforceable in Abuja, Nigeria's capital, a woman must be 18 before being able to consent to marriage. However, those laws aren't enacted in all of Nigeria's 36 states and activists say child brides have been married off in Muslim communities after their first period.
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> >>>> But the question remains, how do you know it is abuse? Is it automatically abuse because of the age of the bride? It is only recently here in the US that marriages involving young brides has been frowned upon. What if, with this marriage, the bride escaped a horrible life? What about mutual conveniences? When the focus is totally on what allegedly happens in someone else's bedroom, it is easy to lose sight of all the myriad factors involved.
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> >>>>> What does the law in Nigeria say about abusing children in this manner? Or does it say nothing because of traditional practices?
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> >>>>>>> Hey will this man be the third wife or because he is a man, he is not ashemed to take a 13 year old to bed ,this is an abomination, it happens every day and infact it is a disgrace to whoever gave their daughter to this man ,he should be hanged or sent to jail for ever. Rember , how can sharia Law allow this abuse to happen? is not about religion,is about law of nature, that girl is too young for an old man. what if is a woman doing this? God help us. Change is what is needed in our society. Every one should participate in this change . Shame on the parents. Peace to you all
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> >>>>>>> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 23:56:25 +0000
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> >>>>>>> Subject: Nigerian court to hear child-bride case
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> >>>>>>> Abuja, Nigeria - A Nigerian federal court will hear a case over whether the West African nation's religious freedom and privacy laws allow a Muslim senator to marry a 13-year-old girl, the latest rift in a country split between Christians and Muslims.
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> >>>>>>> The lawsuit filed by the Supreme Council for Sharia in Nigeria on behalf of Senator Ahmad Sani Yerima challenges the country's child protection laws that ban women from marrying before age 18. The suit, obtained on Friday by The Associated Press, claims that Yerima's constitutional rights are being trampled over the controversy surrounding his alleged marriage to a 13-year-old Egyptian girl.
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> >>>>>>> "The Nigerian constitution guarantees and protects the privacy of any citizen (and) his family member ... against invasion, intrusion and interference," the lawsuit reads.
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> >>>>>>> The suit names the government's National Human Rights Commission, the Senate president and the speaker of the house as defendants. The Human Rights Commission has urged the police to investigate Yerima, while both chambers of the National Assembly have called for their own investigations.
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> >>>>>>> Human rights groups say the 49-year-old lawmaker married the girl at the National Mosque in Abuja after paying her family a $100,000 dowry. Under child protection laws enforceable in Abuja, Nigeria's capital, a woman must be 18 before being able to consent to marriage. However, those laws aren't enacted in all of Nigeria's 36 states and activists say child brides have been married off in Muslim communities after their first period.
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> >>>>>>> It also isn't the first time Yerima has apparently married a child. The rights commission alleges he married a 15-year-old girl, only to divorce the young mother at 17.
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> >>>>>>> Yerima himself appears unrepentant in recent interviews, though he has declined to say how old his new wife is. He told the BBC's Hausa language service in April that he considers "God's law and that of his prophet above any other law."
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> >>>>>>> Yerima's alleged marriage has sparked fierce controversy between Christians and Muslims in Nigeria, a nation of 150 million split almost in half by the two faiths.
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> >>>>>>> The case is scheduled to be heard by the federal high court in Abuja on July 19. - Sapa-AP
> >>>>>>> (http://www.iol.co.za/general/news/newsprint.php" target="1">Published on the Web by IOL on 2010-06-04 17:07:20
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