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"Dr. James Alpigini" <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:01:32 -0500
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Disclaimer: I'm not an MD

>1.      Since starting a Paleo diet, most of my calories come from red meat,
>chicken and fish. I do have some vegetables and an occasional piece of
>fruit. Am I risking my kidneys or anything for that matter by eating so much
>protein?

I think that this is a hotly contested question.  Clearly, too much protein
will impair your kidney function, but if you have healthy kidneys then you
can handle quite a bit.  The problem is, I do not think it has been
clinically proven how much you can handle.  If you have a kidney disease or
other problem, then excess protein is *clearly* dangerous.

When I was placed on a cholesterol lowering diet to combat the 10W-40 which
I had for blood, here was my prescribed daily diet:

Food                # servings   calories   protein   carb   fat

Dairy                2                180         16         24      0
Vegetable         4                100          8          20      0
Fruit                 4                 240         0           60     0
Bread               9                 720         27        135     9
Lean Meat        4                 220         28          0      12
Fat Free Meat   3                 165         21          0       0
Fat                   3                 135         0           0      15
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Total:                                   1760      100       239     36

To give you an idea of the serving sizes: 1 fat is 1 teaspoon of oil, 1
serving of meat is 1 ounce of chicken breast, 1 dairy is 1 cup of skim
milk, 1 bread is 1 slice of bread, etc.  If using cheese for dairy, then a
fat is deducted.

Now using a database, I had tracked what I ate, and the protein came in a
bit lower.  For example, most vegetables have less that 2 grams protein per
serving, but we will use the 100 grams per day as a reference.

This amount, 100 gm/day is well in excess of the USRDA requirements for a
6' 3" man at 2xx pounds :-)  I was told that to go above this was
dangerous.  But realistically, the protein input here is about a large
chicken breast with 2 ounces of cheese (7 meats + 2 dairy)  And in fact, it
broke my metabolism and I lost quite a bit of muscle. But I was eating
healthy! :-!

Realize that the recommended RDA levels are for a bed ridden person, that
is, the minimum to survive.

I now try to eat 200 grams of protein/day and I seem to be doing very well.
 A registered dietician would tell me that I am killing myself and a lot of
MD's would as well.  My current MD has no such problem, he is a body
boulder.  If he punched me I'd crumple like tin. :-)

So I can tell you - from experience and not clinical research - that 200
mg/day is not a problem for someone with healthy kidneys.  In fact, I have
been known to go higher (240-250) without trouble.

But the actual maximum safe level has not been determined that I know of.

James at Penn State

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