I wasn't intimidated by this particular response but I have received some
in the past (not from this individual or this list necessarily) the
rudeness of which can scarcely be justified. Even a New Yorker such as
myself was startled at times by the violence of the attack. It is possible
to object to what someone is doing without using insults and foul language
to make our point. I have a personal belief that some in the blindness
community feel put upon and vent their spleen by flaming others. The habit
is easily acquired and if left unchecked may spill over into areas where
people will be less understanding of such attacks than those on this list
might be. I am also concerned that lack of some kinds of social skills may
be preventing some of us from getting further in life than we otherwise
might. It is not always blindness itself or even discrimination which
stops some of us. Sometimes ( and I include myself here in some cases)
some of us see attacks where none are intended. I know this message has
waxed a bit philosophical but I think the point is worth making.
Elizabeth Aldworth
At 01:25 PM 1/19/99 , you wrote:
>Everyone agrees our little Mark Senk inspired flame needs dousing. But,
>there's an important point to be made. A private scolding like Mark's to me,
>made as it is in the name of the list owners, can be very intimidating,
>particularly to those new to a group. The planet is awash in authoritarian
>twits but blindness seems to have a disproportionate number of them. So,
>sensibilities may be a little rawer here.
>
>For some of us, discussing PDFs could hardly be a more relevant thread. Were
>Liz, whose expertise is valuable, a newly she might well have been
>discouraged by the private scold and quit the list. That would be a
>considerable loss for many of us.
>
>Twits who scold privately can do real damage. So, it's NOT 'Bad, bad, Mark",
>it's DAMAGING Mark who injures my interest and I insist on the right to make
>that point absolutely clear.
>
>That's all from me on this flame.
>
>Bill Carroll, Toronto
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Rossi <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 10:50 AM
>Subject: Re: Mark Senk
>
>
>>On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, istar wrote:
>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> Never, ever scold me again 'in private'. Have the courage to scold me in
>>> public.
>>
>>Mark! Have you been scolding people again? Don't make us get out the
>>rolled up newspaper again. (grin). Bad Mark! Bad Bad Mark!
>>
>>Now can we take this whole flaming thing to private email? I've seen
>>enough.
>>
>>Kidding folks, just kidding.
>>
>>Dan
>>
>>-----
>>Blue Skies
>>Dan Rossi
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