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Dear Bob W.,
If You wish to find the truth of the matter, turn on your monitor for the
first time after some short rest/off period. Then put the Back of your hand
NEAR the screen, about I/4"-6.35 mm. You should feel the Electromagnetic
field from the screen as a static charge type of feeling/sensation.
You should feel the sensation of discharge, both in its minor form,(hair
standing on end etc.,) and it's more striking form (Small Strikes of static
"bolts.") Now I doubt that there has been any research into what those
"Bolts" will do over a period of say 7 years, when forced to strike a small
area of skin, (36 Sq. Mm) until the screen is no longer charged, several
times a day. I can tell you what it would find though, as that is what has
been going on with me.
I have a "Scab" filled crater of 6 X 6 mm.. Now, as to Your scientific
detachment, and non-emotional scientific phrasing, of scientific
theorems/hypotheses, You said;
"As you might or might not care, I am a real scientist , and what you state
is nonesense! (Sic) No crt screen has ever nor will ever burn a hole in your
skin. .. What you state was and still is Bull!"
Dwight
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On Sat, 3 Jul 1999 09:45:25 -0400 (EDT), Scranton Computer wrote:
> As you might or might not care, I am a real scientist , and what what you
> state is nonesense! No crt screen has ever nor will ever burn a hole in
> your skin. Befor becoming blind I worked for RCA in their Picture Tube
> division. I am a biochemist who was responsible for compliance with and
> measurement of all safety related matters. What you state was and still
> is Bull!
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob W.]]
> q
>
> On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Dwight Hall wrote:
>
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> >
> >
> > Dear sir, or madam,
> >
> > You said,
> >
> > "This is nonsense, or to use a term that you seem more likely to
> > understand, Bull."
> >
> > I am quite willing, and able to debate some point or other that might
become
> > the foci of a dispute, however I will not tolerate attacks on my
veracity.
> > What I stated in my post about the discharges slowly burning a small
crater
> > (about 6 mm X 6 mm ) in the right side tip of my nose is a established
> > medical fact. If you are not able to accept/understand that with which
you
> > have no personal experience, then perhaps you should reconsider your
> > continued correspondence with myself, and others who have mayhaps a
slightly
> > wider understanding of what is possible.
> >
> > Dwight
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > On Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:33:00 -0400 (EDT), Scranton Computer wrote:
> >
> > > This is nonsense, or to use a term that you seem more likely to
> > > understand, Bull.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Dwight Hall wrote:
> > >
> > > > [log in to unmask]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Tom Fowler
> > > >
> > > > You said;
> > > >
> > > > "electromagnetic fields have not been proven to cause any
measurable
> > harm"
> > > >
> > > > and;
> > > >
> > > > "All such effects are under the control of the "inverse square"
law,
> > which
> > > > states that the power induced by a magnetic or electric field is
> > inversely
> > > > proportional to the distance from the field generator to the
effected
> > body.
> > > > if you are 2 inches away, you get the square root of the energy at
one
> > inch.
> > > > This puts the lie to almost all such effects at distances of 1 or 2
> > feet."
> > > >
> > > > Unfoutionetly Your argument falls prey to a even more common non
> > scientific
> > > > malady, statements that are far to broad. There is plenty of
evidence
> > of
> > > > damage done to people who get too close to the screen. High voltage
> > jumps
> > > > the gap between the screen, and the body, making a snap that our
ears
> > can
> > > > hear, and a pinching/burning pain that usually only lasts a second
or
> > two,
> > > > at the site of impact of the charge.
> > > >
> > > > Most of us are familiar with this from static charges, and it is
not
> > > > considered as a Really bad thing. The greater damage occurs when
the
> > body
> > > > repeatedly is exposed to the charge at the same body site, where
slowly
> > > > small bits of living tissue are electrocuted, and sloth off. After
some
> > time
> > > > a hole is burned/cut into the body at the site, and it bleeds.
> > > >
> > > > This is continued for as long as the person is forced to repeat the
> > same
> > > > action of placing the body part on the screen. Now as for "inverse
> > square
> > > > law," Well that is also over looked by the sighted, and the fully
blind
> > > > also. We who have residual vision, and use it to the max, must
often
> > place
> > > > our nose, eyebrow, and or other face parts on the screen to get
close
> > enough
> > > > to focus the high magnification lenses we must use to read
anything.
> > > >
> > > > So when some point to the extremely low energy of any felid, at two
> > feet,
> > > > they over look those of us who must touch that same screen. We get
a
> > > > incredible jolt every time we move on in, starting at over a inch
from
> > the
> > > > screen and continuing till after we are touching it. We use the
body
> > part to
> > > > wipe off all of the charge and then we can use it with out any
further
> > > > pain.
> > > >
> > > > That's when in my case, I would have to stop every few minutes to
clean
> > the
> > > > screen of blood, so I could see it. That is all obviated with the
simple
> > act
> > > > of wiping the screen with a paper towel, or some other such device
each
> > time
> > > > the monitor is turned on.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck, and never give up!
> > > >
> > > > Dwight
> > > >
> > > > [log in to unmask]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > On Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:12:06 -0700, Tom Fowle wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The article on "computers hurting you"is a fine example of junk
> > science.
> > > > > the author called all the wrong people, first he should have
> > > > > called trained professionals who might have actually been able to
> > > > > find out what was "REALLY" wrong.. First, an ophthalmologist, or
> > perhaps
> > > > an
> > > > > optometrist. A chiropractor has no training in internal
> > > > > medecine or ophthalmology and is therefore not trained to judge
> > > > > anything so subtle as the possible effects of magnetic or
> > > > > electrical fields on the body.
> > > > >
> > > > > All such effects are under the control of the "inverse square"
> > > > > law, which states that the power induced by a magnetic or
> > > > > electric field is inversely proportional to the distance from the
> > > > > field generator to the effected body. if you are 2 inches away,
> > > > > you get the square root of the energy at one inch. This puts the
> > > > > lie to almost all such effects at distances of 1 or 2 feet.
> > > > >
> > > > > most important is our excessive reliance on anecdotal evidence.
> > > > > I feel better so it must work. Is bunk, bunk, bunk.
> > > > > No one understands the power of the mind, it is called the
> > > > > placebo effect and makes observations made by the person taking
> > > > > almost anything totally meaningless.
> > > > >
> > > > > so, although there may be ways computers can hurt you, like
> > > > > dropping one on your foot, buying a cheap mail order machine
> > > > > hoping it will work with your specialized access hardware, or
> > > > > having to use lousy software pushed down our throats by con
> > > > > artists, electromagnetic fields have not been proven to cause any
> > > > > measurable harm, in fact all scientifically done, controlled
> > > > > studies in the legitimate pier reviewed literature show they are
> > > > > harmless..
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry I have to go off about junk science, if we don't learn how
to
> > > > > spot it, it WILL KILL US much deader than the things the idiots
tell
> > us to
> > > > worry
> > > > > about.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom Fowle
> > > > >
> > > > >
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