Very well said, ISM. Ever insightful. Anyone care for a cinnamon roll recipe?

 Bob, I'm the resident baker on the list.

Cheers!

Carla
http://www.brunnet.net/terrier

"I. STEPHEN MARGOLIS" wrote:

> Bob,
>
> I haven't taken the time to greet you or post you more directly so let me
> say "Hi" to you now and see if I can offer my support.
>
> I've visited your webs and am impressed by your accomplishment.  My activity
> with computers doesn't get much beyond email and net surfing.
>
> My intro to this list evolved by searching for Carla MacInnis whose
> impressive writings were brought to my attention by a friend this side of
> the Ethernet.  My "first encounter" involved taking a shot at Bobby Greer,
> with whom I wound up, and usually do find myself, in agreement, admire and
> respect, and consider, as much as this forum allows, a friend and fellow
> traveler.
>
> >From the beginning I did not sit back and survey the scene, I jumped right
> in and let human nature take its course.  Not that I'm indifferent to
> people's feelings, I'm often obtuse.  Besides, I'm willing, if sometimes
> slow and even reluctant, to take responsibility for my attitudes and
> behavior; will offer apologies when asked and due.
>
> Now I've been here for about, sigh, two years, so I "know" some of the folks
> and indulge the banter and ease that grows between longer term
> acquaintances.  That's not intended to exclude or embarrass you or anyone
> per se, that's not to say my writing's not "layered" and directed with
> multiple intentions.
>
> For better and worse, I enjoy being sexual and sexual innuendo, (often try
> to insert such little word plays and references), the awe and wonder of
> creation and pleasure, laugh and share with women and men the issues of our
> shortcomings.
>
> I love words and writing, the expressions and interplay of human intellects
> and experiences as we come to know and express them in this medium.  I
> admire how each of us uses her and his language and how beautifully we think
> and write, how passionately we argue, how silly and trivial we can be.
>
> See where this is going?
>
> Obviously, hopefully, you're not the only person reading this.  I'm still
> talking to you directly, sincerely, yet expanding the scope of the
> discussion, shifting something of the attention and intention to include
> somebody else, others.  You know "somebody."  She came right up front and
> teased you and Chester for rolling Anee (if I noticed right, Anee didn't
> protest). You and Chester went--dare I say--rigid and proper.  An acceptable
> response given the surprise and "confrontation."
>
> I seized the moment for the opening I saw, gave me a chance to play with
> Elaine (Did she notice, does she care?), (also you, Chester, and Anee).
> Others joined, some went off list.  (From the room we come and go.)  You're
> on safe ground.  We're all still here, thank God, and so are you.  Relax.
> Enjoy.  We'll sort thinks out as we go along.
>
> You write: "People thought I was getting sexual."  I interpreted helpfulness
> and sexuality being expressed.  I presume others did too, but I don't know
> what others think, only what they say.  There's a major distinction between
> what people think and say or write.  And at least two more from how we mean
> and interpret what is written.
>
> AND I also saw, as did Elaine and others an opportunity to engage sexual
> banter and teasing.  Sex and sexual moments fizz and fizzle, popped corns of
> human merriment and excitement, not compatible with indignation and denial.
> To me if there's something funnier than people being sexual its people not
> knowing or denying the possibility or actuality.  Sex always gets the
> measure of us, brings us down to size.
>
> Certainly you have the right to assert your intentions and clarify your
> motives.  I respect that.  Indeed, as I compose this, I become more mindful
> of how we all differ in ages, experiences, relationships, perceptions, that
> what one finds easy another finds discomforting.  I want you to know you're
> not being judged or criticized.  And hopefully, now, we are more aware of
> each other's feelings and points of view.
>
> As for the unkempt "threads,"--well--think of them as rocks that must be
> lifted if you want to know what's under them.  Disorder trumps order here.
> Relax the rules and go with the flow.  Let decency and good will continue as
> your guide.  Keep faith with your delete button.
>
> And feel free to email me direct whenever you want.
>
> Steve M.
>
> From: "Robert J. Pacheco" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Very Confusing
> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:31:16 EDT
>
> Bobby
>
>     Every morning i delete 7-10 messages that i don't have a clue of
> subjects
> that start without me.  I know about the baclofin pumps because i almost
> had
> one inplanted,  when i was helping Anee with her back pain, people
> thought i
> was getting sexual with her. when I was hepling tom with his problem
> with his
> pca/girlfriend, i had to take that private because i don't know what we
> are
> allowed to REALLY say on here. yes I have alot of input, but only things
> that
> are clear and straight foward. Do you understand?
>
> With Open Eyes
> Bob