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James Crocker <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:57:43 -0500
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>On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Don Wiss wrote:
>
>> To me Amadeus is a troll that gets his intellectual kicks out of
hassling
>> meat eaters and trying to convert them to his way of eating. Just like
>> there are a couple guys that hang out in the rec.food.veg newsgroup
and
>> hassle the vegetarians for their way of eating.
>
>I don't see it this way at all.  Personally, I have no interest
>in becoming a vegetarian but I nevertheless find many of
>Amadeus's arguments challenging and significant, as should anyone
>who wishes to emphasize the gathering aspects of the
>hunter-gatherer lifestyle....

>Todd Moody

Yes, I agree.  Amadeus posts some very interesting information about some
of the foods he eats.  They appear to be very much based in ancient diet
philosophy, at least in the respect that the foods were around a long
time ago.

IMO the genetic enhancement of feedlot animals and vegetables cannot be
ignored.  Neither can we suggest the total lipid and lipid compositions
of modern feedlot animals as being like "the real thing" paleo wise.
Cows are a very un-paleo animal, because they have only existed for a
short while on the evolutionary scale.  When cows and other animals are
exclusively fed grains, corn, etc, they develop the same and/or very
similar symptoms that people do.  Increased carcass fat and unfavorable
lipid profiles.  Whether or not ancient man consumed large amounts of
large animals for large time periods might be up for debate.  But it
definitely appears that wild game is very unlike modern agricultural
animals.  These are central points that Amadeus discusses.

Instead of complain and point fingers (and call people trolls) why don't
those people post some data to support their views?  Or, maybe those
people have a priori view points and agendas of their own?

Maybe this mailing list should be for Neanderthin following people only,
like the charter says.  However, people don't follow some of the other
charter guidelines, like mentioning of company names, etc.  I don't see
people complaining about these other guidelines being stepped on a little
bit, I certainly don't mind.  It's only when people feel personally
attacked (even though they aren't, IMO) when they start complaining.

I notice that even in Neanderthin there looks like a little room for
variety and personal preferences - ie. not every person needs to eat
exactly the same foods and in the same amounts to claim they follow
Neanderthin guidelines.

Once in a while this group proves to me that it is more hostile than all
the other mailing lists I subscribe to.  I don't see any reason to post
flames.

James Crocker
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"The important thing is not to stop questioning."
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