On 2 Apr 99, at 22:32, Sami Al_mohssen wrote:

> if you ask me there is absolutly no good reason why anyone should chose a
> pII400 over a celeron400 as the performance differnce is not even worth
> mentioning. as a matter of fact i like the celeron 400 for the following
> reasons
>
> 1. the huge price difference between the two CPU's.

  Agreed.

> 2. although not a big problem in the states (but exist non the less), many
> PII400 are remarked. this is not a problem in the celeron400.

  This is probably a symptom of the price difference -- more incentive to
re-mark a PII, and the plastic housing may make it easier as well.

> 3. the celeron400 can easaly be overclocked to 500MHZ. but i'm sure you're
> not intrested in doing that.

  The Celeron 400 is multiplier-locked at 6.0x.  [I'm not sure about the
PII, but I believe the PII-400 has been out long enough that not all are
locked.]
  So the only way you'll get a Celeron-400 to do 500 is with a motherboard
that provides an 83 MHz FSB setting.  [Some do, but I don't think the P2L97
does.]  And that means cranking the PCI bus up from 33 MHz to 41 MHz, and
some peripherals may not like that.
  As you say, overclocking a personal machine is one thing, but in a
business/reliability context, it's a non-starter.

> 4. you can upgrade to a pIII in the future withwithout feeling guilty for
> throwing away a cpu that costs $400+

  So far, it doesn't look like the PIII does anything special for
"general business applications", so I'm not sure this consideration
will apply to this customer beyond the price difference already
mentioned as #1.


  Intel has tried to sell the artificial concept of a "segmented"
marketplace, allowing Celerons ("home" market) to exhibit a very
different price/performance curve from PIIs and PIIIs ("business"
market).
  In fact (coming back to your first paragraph and basically agreeing
with its conclusion), the customer will get similar bang for fewer
bucks by going Celeron.


David G

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