Kendra:  I got lost and can not tell if either one of you remember what started
this.  I think that doctors are unnecessary and I choose herbal/nutrition
remedies if needed.  I am Paleo though, and do not find a need but occasionally
drinking beet juice to beat the flu and rose hip tea to beat a cold (that once
every two years so far).  I am 26 and stopped going to doctors when I was 21.
My son has never seen a doctor and he is 14 months.  I think naturopaths and
chiropractors are unnecessary, also.  I am not going to say they are "quacks"
but the ones around here seem to be full of **it.  I am not saying I'll never
see them but I seriously doubt it.  If I did get real sick, I guess I would have
to re-evaluate and determine what road to travel then.  Don't you both agree
Paleo life just about eliminates the need for doctors or someone trained in
alternatives?  I suppose some people recovering from disease may need to watch
numbers and see doctors.  My dad with ulcerated colitis certainly isn't going to
eat Paleo and stop seeing doctors, no matter how good he feels.  He needs tests
to be sure it has not become cancer and is actually getting better with a Paleo
diet.  Hey, to each their own ... personally though, I do not trust medical
advisers that eat technology based foods. They obviously are not the ones to
turn to for medical advise.

> Ben Balzer: Yeh, they're all great guys, know everything, cure everything,
> never overservice, never afraid to admit when they're stumped. Happy to do
> house calls, night calls and see the poor for free. Wanna buy a bridge?  But
> what can a poor quack do - sell the man a whole bunch of useless herbs or
> massage or aromatherapy- how about a bullshit poultice?
>
> Rachel:  If you mean that accupuncturists, naturopathic doctors, and
> chiropractors are quacks...I think you are full of corn grits.  Maybe you
> don't know what they have studied, how they have helped people, and have
> never experienced the benefits of such treatments. Sure their are good
> practitioners and not so good ones, but some people would rather deal with a
> different medical model than the Western one which has one of the shortest
> track record in history.
>
> Ben:  Ah, I'm blowing hot and cold, I'll never make a good flamer. Maybe you
> could learn to be a bit more open minded and less perjorative. You are in
> fact prejudiced against doctors and you think that makes you special- but it
> doesn't.
>
> Rachel:  Gee, I didn't know I was being "closed" minded or perjorative. :-l
> My take on the Western Medical model is that it is not about HEALTH CARE but
> rather "DISEASE CARE/TREATMENT".  They mistake early detection "prevention."
>  No, maybe we're not special!!!  We've  just had a commitment to "natural"
> or "alternative" health care for years and subscribed to the belief that the
> body can  heal itself when given the proper support.   Btw:  Chinese  herbal
> medicine has been practiced for more than 4,000 years and many believe that
> herbal medicine has stone-age "roots."  We have chosen to take herbs to
> rectify certain imbalances rather than take isolated, pharmaceutical
> products which are much like processed foods or isolated nutrients.
>
> Ben:  WHy don't you put the poor man on a paleodiet- that's about the only
> thing that might really work.
>
> Rachel:  I don't PUT anyone on a Paleo diet.  If they WANT to change, I
> share with them what I know and offer support.  My mother in law would NEVER
> change the way they eat.  She's about as open as a lock with no key.  So, we
> don't offer advice.
>
> Very few people know that there are individuals who do not visit a doctor
> for an annual physical, don't take prescription drugs, don't know all their
> "numbers", and put more stock in how they look, feel, and the improvements,
> and quality of life they experience.  Btw:  I respect the quality of work
> good surgeons can do sewing up people who need it, I just don't put a lot of
> stock in most of their "tests" for health or "cures."
>
> Maybe some others on this list agree???
>
> Rachel