On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Paul Wheaton wrote:

> I ordered the book a few days ago from my local bookseller (they didn't
> have it in stock).

It's a rare book.  I ordered it from the manufacturer direct because at
the time I was on Deal-A-Meal-That-Leaves-Me-Both-Hungry-and-Sick.


> While I wait, I wonder if someone would be so kind as to give me a summary
> of how Neanderthin differs from other low carb diets.  I have done a
> variety of other low carb programs for the last 13 months:  Atkins, CAD,
> CKD, etc.

        The premise is you can eat anything that you could eat in a
low-tech setting.  So NeanderThin is not-nescisarily low carb.


> I read something somewhere about eating 6500 calories to lose weight.  Of
> what?

        It would have to be meat.  Allow me to quote from "Meat Three
Times a Day:

"To see in a practical way just what this matter of concentration of
nutritive valies in meats signifies, consider the case of a man we will
call Mr. A[udette?], who requires 3000 calories a day for subsistence,
which is not far from an average amount [in the late 1940's].  To eat this
as meat in the form of steak would require the eating of about two pounds
a day if the meat contained a normal proportion of fat.  (Of a leaner type
of meat, round steak, about three pounds would be required).  To obtain
the same number of calories in the form of grain woulf require three
loaves of bread.  Transalting this amount into terms of the  more bulky
foods, more nearly approximating the sort of foodstuffs habitually
consumed by meat and dairy animals, twenty-two pounds of cabbage would be
required to supply Mr. A's calorie requirements.  Even assuming the
vegitable were peas (which is among the most concentrated of vegitable
foods), over 12 pounds a day would be required, and that would call for
four very full meals, since the average stomach can handle only three
pounds of food at a meat at most.  Such a diet is, of course, not
practical for anyone; the examples are used merely to show the extreme
range of concentration of nutritive values between normally fat meat and
bulky vegatives.  More imprtant that the matter of the smaller bulk
involved, is, of course, the fact that the consumer of two or three pounds
of steak would be eating a nutrituionally complete diet.
        It would take about EIGHT DOZEN bananas (though bananas are fairly
high in suger, a relatively concentrated carbohydrate food, and are rated
by many as a fruit of superior nutritive quality [excuse me while I eat a
banana]), to furnish the amount of protein needed daily by an adult, which
would be easily and simply supplied y a single pound of steak or roast
beef.  If milk is consumed, four quarts a day would be required - a
quantity wholly impossible for the human digestive system to handle.  No
mixture or concentration of cabbage, peas, or other common vegatables or
fruits, however, could pssibly provide that balance of fats and proteins
necessary to permit our subject to survive in good health and with safe
margins of resistance against colds and infectious and other diseases."



> I remember something else about how cheese is out.  Is this a general
> health thing, or would it impede weight loss?

        NeanderThin actually isn't a high-fat diet.  Cheese and other
dairy products are high in fat, low in protein, and with the exception of
calcium not very nutritious.
        Pages I have bookmarked on the subject are:
16 reasons to Boo the Moo <http://www.veggiepower.ca/16reason.htm>
The No Milk Page <http://www.panix.com/~nomilk/>
MILK AND MS <http://commercial-directory.clever.net/health/msmilk.htm>