On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:22:13 -0500, Ilya <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>While the debate about meat certainly belongs to this list it does
>not belong as a response to my message, which had nothing to do
>with meat, vegeterianism, or how paleo is either of them. I have also
>pointed out that that's what my message was about and asked not to
>start a debate about it. It would be plain curtesy on your part not
>to use my message for your thread again, considering that I did not
>give any real reason for you to start such an UNRELATED thread.
>.. These were merely examples
>of what MAY BE HAPPENING. I am not making any claims for them, so don't
>start debunking them one by one. ..
>Thank God
 for small favors. (If I sound sarcastic, it's because I
>am - your trolling has just wasted 30 minutes of my time responding
>to you).
Yes,I did start a new thread and I am *not* going to let you decide or
censor
on which topics i may or may not be allowed to discuss about,
or in which way i was allowed to argue.
I am not living in Russia of 1980 or in Germany of 1940 or in any
other dictatorship, and as long as i am following the constraints of
this
given discussion list i feel free to speak free.
If you don't like to discuss a topic or you feel to waste your time
then
please simply don't do it - otherwise you will probably waste time!

Maybe someone else will catch up my *topic*
it was "Supplements and deviating from true paleolithic nutrition"
and will be willing to respond on the considerations i have brought
up.

And that is: a high meat consumption (i mentioned
"several hundred grams
per day" ) doesn't seem to be the diet we were adapted to,
if we compare it's supply on essential stuffs to todays known needs.

And not:
>I see that you have taken yet another topic and used it to start a
>'meat isn't paleo' debate again.
Meat *is* paleo but the high amounts are IMO not.

I tried to set up a vitamin/mineral profile of meals
_at_paleolithic_times_
with the results i listed. If we consider the stuff uncooked you can't
argue that cooking is the reason for the vitamin/mineral
shortcomeings.
Missing calories and calcium or the over-iron won't change
if you leave it raw.

Some of the missing stuffs of my list will be easy to add with
vegetables,
as are vitamin c and folic acid, if you get enough fresh stuff.
But not for calcium, fats, vitamin b1 and not for the over-supplied
things.

In the savanne don't live fatty fish or fatty walrusses which can
supply the