Sam,
I hope you don't mind, but I am going to carbon copy this back to the list, as
I feel that others should know how I think and feel about this.
I am sorry if my tone seems a bit harsh, but you did make it sound as though
you actually hated the idea of someone explaining what needs to be done
trying to get better tools to the blind.
I have been total for about 10 years, thansk in no small part to a drunk driver,
and it has been one frustration after another (try fighting you case in
Arizona, it gets real interesting). Perhaps I should have toned my response
a bit in the intial public posting, but, with everything else going on, emotions
are hard to keep out of discussions.
As far as I can tell, the biggest prblem among all of us is that there are
disperate points of view, and some feel that their point of view (and thus
the implimentation of any action) is superior to all others.
As for the issue at hand, windows is very difficult to work in, if you have
never worked in it before. I only got into the windows thing roughly 3 years
ago and have learned a lot. However, having to learn a new program every time,
with new key combinations, can be a bit tedious. I have had to memorize over 600
different key combinations to use the software that I do have in win95 (such as
ms word, power point, access, publisher and a few others). I have 12 different
packages from microsoft alone, and half of them do not work well with the
speech synth card (conflicting key combinations)
Take it from someone who is in the know, windows truely is a pain. This is why
I am going back to Unix/Linux. At least there, I can write a speech synth program
AND integrate it into the system much more flawlessly than windows will allow.
You might want to check it out sometime. Linux is vastly more powerful, easier
to work (commands similar to DOS) and has a GUI that is alreay compatible
with speech technology. On top of everything else, I am not comfortable with
a company that is trying to be a monopoly, and definitely has a poor attitude
toward
those of us who need to use the software, but find that difficult because of
access
concerns.
Hopefully, by now, you see where I am going with this. :)
Hawke
Sam Troia wrote:
> For your information I've been blind since birth--totally blind and I don't
> have a lick of trouble understanding Windows. I have DOS on this machine
> but use it less than 1 percent of the time. So, since you don't know me
> personally, I'd suggest you not spout off about my being sighted and that I
> can't possibly walk in your moccasins. Windows is simply not the problem
> that some make it out to be and it certainly is no more of a problem than
> DOS ever was. A lot of blind people have to learn to cope with and accept
> change. That's the big problem and that's my last word to you on the
> subject; I'll not respond to you further.
>
> At 02:41 PM 12/15/98 -0700, you wrote:
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> >Sam,
> >what the hell is your problem?
> >Obviously, you have enough eyesight to navigate in windows quite well.
> >I, on the other hand, do not, and have had to learn a great many tricks to
> >get around the problem.
> >
> >MS-DOS had is uses 9I still have it here on my machine, right along side
> >winblows and UNIX. Until now, I didn't have anything to say on the subject.
> >
> >Until you can walk a mile in my moccassins, you have absolutely NO CLUE
> >as to what you are talking about.
> >
> >Hawke
> >
> >Sam Troia wrote:
> >
> >> This report is abysmal and most obnoxious! I am sick to death of blind
> >> people like the person from APH mentioned in the article crying and moaning
> >> about how difficult Windows is for poor little blind people. And they also
> >> complain that Windows lacks intuitiveness. Well, I for one would like to
> >> know where the intuitiveness is in DOS? Ok, I never found DOS difficult
> >> but I can assure you one hundred percent that Windows is a whole lot easier
> >> and a whole lot more intuitive. These people who like to moan and cry
> >> should get over it and grow up.
> >>
> >> At 04:26 PM 12/14/98 -0800, you wrote:
> >> >Posted at 11:38 a.m. PST Monday, December 14, 1998
> >> >------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> >Louisville, Ky., Firm Makes Products, Promotes Ideas to Help the Blind
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >By Louise Taylor, Lexington Herald-Leader, Ky.
> >> >Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News
> >> --remainder snipped
> >>
> >> --Sam Troia
> >> (Your Alternative Uncle Sam)
> >> KHUM rules!
> >>
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> >Sam,
> ><br>what the hell is your problem?
> ><br>Obviously, you have enough eyesight to navigate in windows quite well.
> ><br>I, on the other hand, do not, and have had to learn a great many tricks
> >to
> ><br>get around the problem.
> ><p>MS-DOS had is uses 9I still have it here on my machine, right along
> >side
> ><br>winblows and UNIX. Until now, I didn't have anything to say on the
> >subject.
> ><p>Until you can walk a mile in my moccassins, you have absolutely NO CLUE
> ><br>as to what you are talking about.
> ><p><font face="Braille">Hawke</font>
> ><p>Sam Troia wrote:
> ><blockquote TYPE=CITE>This report is abysmal and most obnoxious!
> >I am sick to death of blind
> ><br>people like the person from APH mentioned in the article crying and
> >moaning
> ><br>about how difficult Windows is for poor little blind people.
> >And they also
> ><br>complain that Windows lacks intuitiveness. Well, I for one would
> >like to
> ><br>know where the intuitiveness is in DOS? Ok, I never found DOS
> >difficult
> ><br>but I can assure you one hundred percent that Windows is a whole lot
> >easier
> ><br>and a whole lot more intuitive. These people who like to moan
> >and cry
> ><br>should get over it and grow up.
> ><p>At 04:26 PM 12/14/98 -0800, you wrote:
> ><br>>Posted at 11:38 a.m. PST Monday, December 14, 1998
> ><br>>------------------------------------------------------------
> ><br>>
> ><br>>Louisville, Ky., Firm Makes Products, Promotes Ideas to Help the Blind
> ><br>>
> ><br>>
> ><br>>By Louise Taylor, Lexington Herald-Leader, Ky.
> ><br>>Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News
> ><br>--remainder snipped
> ><p>--Sam Troia
> ><br>(Your Alternative Uncle Sam)
> ><br>KHUM rules!
> ><p>VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List.
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> tjohns.edu/archives/vicug-l.html</a></blockquote>
> >
> ><p>--
> ><br>Visit my webpage (now located at <A
> HREF="http://www.users.uswest.net/~proudhawk">http://www.users.uswest.net/~p
> roudhawk</A>
> >)
> ><br> </html>
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> >
> --Sam Troia
> (Your Alternative Uncle Sam)
> KHUM rules!
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