Martin you need shall we say instruction.  If we wait for Utopia, we
must wait quite a while.  Socialism of course is a human institution.
What it commendably lacks is a layer of owners who require workers to
work half their time for profits and for'management' the people whose
job it is to police the workers.  And of course those owners buy the
gov't, see the US congress in this connection.
wcm
>
> William Meecham writes:
> > In below we see the familiar syndrome: socialism is great but any
> > manifestation of it NEVER fits the definition, so not to worry.
>
> I would have said most of them *fit* the definition.  I think the
> syndrome is when the socialist true believer is unwilling to admit
> that socialism can be just as structured, class-oriented, and evil as
> capitalism can be.
>
> martin
>
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