On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Forrest wrote:

> Karl, dear.  Much as I like kisses, think about a couple of things first.
> 1, The Irish (and all people under political/military stress) eat whatever
> they can get their hands on. Be it potatoes or grain. The so -called
> "potato famine" earned that name (if I am remembering the same time and
> place as you) AFTER the time it happened.  I think it was just called "the
> famine" or "the bad times" (as my grandmother used to say).  Potatoes were
> available, edible to most folk and CHEAP - meaning free. I believe that
> your theory of conspiracy with the, then-local government, is just that - a
> theory.

        My area of historical expertise is in Asian religious feminist
intellectual history, so I can't say a thing about the specifics of the
Irish conquest.  What I want to point out is that the Seven Staple Crops
(rice, corn, wheat, rye, oats, potatoes and barley) are tools of
conquest that the conquerors use to feed the conquered rather cheeply.

> When there is not much to eat, you eat whatever you can, whenever
> you can and the fact that the local politician promises you you'll never be
> hungry again, if you'll only ignore this gun I'm pointing at you and sign
> your property away on the dotted line, has not much to do with it.

        I hear you.  The stomach is all.

> What you say about governments dictating food supplies is probably quite
> true.  Them that has the biggest  tells them that has none what to do and
> how they will like it.  We are existing on food stamps currently and are
> fortunate to be living in a state (Texas) where WE decide what to eat.  But
> I remember friends in California (1970's) who were told what kind of food
> they could buy and how much of each item was available to them. "The Big
> Bad Boys" in anyone's government are people just like you and I who do
> their jobs to Learn and Earn - learning what they didn't know before and
> deciding if they like to do their jobs that way, while earning their way.
> Conspiring to lead me into developing epilepsy (through a poor choice of
> diet and being born to my parents) wasn't on anyone's agenda when they took
> that job.

        It's not a conspiracy.  If it looks like a conspiracy, I've
failed to get my point across.  The non-shadow govt. is too dumb to do a
good conspiracy.  In Wisconsin our new-improved W2 wellfare system has a
department of work enforcement.  Now, doesn't that sound Orwellian?

[snip]

> Karl, think about it.  You can spend your time seeing things that may not
> be there and hunting for someone to agree with you, or eating the diet,
> feeling better than ever and helping other to feel the same way.  Then
> maybe you can find someone who agrees with enough - not just in theory, but
> in person - and talk to them about this kissing that has you all hot &
> bothered?? Sherry

        The Invisable War is an entirely different aspect of what I am
talking about right here with cheep starces as tools of the Imperium.
When I talk about the Invisable War, I'm pointing at nutrasweet and other
more subtle things hidden in modern food designed to make people more
like THEY want you to be.  Unhappy, borderline sick, confused and
fustrated appears to be THEIR goals.  But I won't even start to try and
convince the world of THEIR existance.  In the end it all boils down to
Argument From Authority.  I don't even know who THEY are!
        What I am talking about is that the degree of agriculture is
directly proportional to the degree of imperialism.  I am saying that the
staple crops of agriculture, the cheep starches, are used to maximumly
feed the huddled masses.  Look at the back of a food stamp, what you have
is a plea to not eat meat.  Just a little malnutrition is enough to keep
a child from being as smart as his genotype would allow if fully
expressed.  Looking at anorexics, we see a body that has attacked it's
own brain in order to live.  It is better to be sumb and alive and smart
and dead; that is nature for you.  The root of my theory, which is a
medical theory rather than a conspiracy theory, is that meat makes
children smarter and taller.  As physical health is the primary concern
to an organism, good physical health can be used as a marker for good
mental health at a basal level.  (One can train one and not the other, as
the stereotypical "jocks" and "nerds" show).