Dear Group,

Been away for a while asia paradox... St. Thomas, the doubter, kept a
record of the sayings of Jesus that can be found at the following url:
http://home.sol.no/~noetic/nagham/gosthom.html Behing this is much more.

Best Regards,
Ron




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This is an exchange from a list I belong to on creativity and creative
problem solving; I began to wonder what Gestalt people might do  with it.
So, here it is...I am particularly interested in how we see completion.  I
think it has import for how we know when to finish with a client, how we
see the end of "a piece" of work, and how we know in our own lives that
we've accomplished the fulfillment of a figure.

Phil

PS  John, consider it a package with a special, brite ribbon just for
you.(Do you feel poked with a stick?  Can you hear me laughing in
appreciation of our friendship?)
___________

>It would be an interesting issue - The creativity of the words of Jesus.
>Most of the concepts are still useful in today's corporate lifestyle.

Yes,  I particularly like the way he thought outside of the box in the
temple, when faced with the moneychangers, and his surprising, effective
backhand with a whip!  His creative use of paradox might still find its
mark in today's corporate environment; can't you just see the stunned look
when you walk into the board meeting yelling, "This should be a house of
worship, but you have made it a den of thieves!"  ; - )

When I think of Jesus, it's not so much his example as his accomplishment
that matters.  He didn't just talk up an idea, brainstorm a bunch of
possibilities and work things out in the synergi of his apostles; He made
it happen, most of the time he was misunderstood by his followers, and his
final accomplishment was to die.  His creative act was to give his life,
and it was a sacrifice from beginning to end.  Can you imagine hanging from
the cross, looking down in pain at a bunch of people gawking at you, people
who didn't really understand what was happening, and being able to say, "It
is finished."  What's you're experience of knowing when you've come to
completion on a creative project?

Phil