Elena and all:
The ease and accessibility of shopping on-line for us depends on not only the screenreading tools and browser you are using (you've accounted for both) but the website you're trying to shop from. As I noted in a post last Friday, using the exact same screenreader and browser you are using, I found it a pain to shop using shipt.com (though it didn't appear to be impossible--though, of course, I didn't try to check out with the latest update on this site).
Using the same setup you have, I've found shopping at http://safeway.com and http://amazon.com to be easiest (I also like a site that I use to purchase CDS from whose url escapes me now).
In all cases, the best thing to do first is to create an account with the store where you wish to browse and/or possibly purchase. Yes, they do keep tabs on length of time on site and what you purchase, but ultimately, you win in the long run if you have an account.
The other thing to look for with the individual sites is if there is an edit box where you can place the name of what you are searching for and get results. While you can go through and peruse the aisles and subaisles for things, it is a lot easier, especially if you know what you want already, to just type in the product name (generic or brand name) and view a list of results than using the arrow key to go from aisle to subaisle to sub-sub-aisle to find what you're looking for each time you visit the site.
I'm going to stop here as getting in to the weeds with you on individual commands for the individual sites (I think that's what you were asking for) might be something too specific to put in to a response for the whole group. Please email me at [log in to unmask] if you want more information about how to access Safeway and Amazon using Windows 10 and Firefox.
One more thing. If you have the means to do this (I don't), you should consider purchasing an I-phone (which is accessible out of the box) or an accessible android phone. Most shopping sites today are being developed with these phones in mind as that is how most people are now accessing the Internet. Good luck!
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Ted Chittenden
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From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of [log in to unmask]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 10:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] SHOPPING ONLINE
Hi all, I'm trying to master shopping online but I find it very confusing. I'm using Windows 10 with Firefox and Jaws. Could someone share some tips with me that have had success in placing food orders for delivery without the help of sighted people? Thanks, Elena
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From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Albert Ruel
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 11:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Outlook 2016 and the To Field
Ana, have you tried to type all or part of the person's name, then holding down the Alt key and pressing the letter K? That should bring up a list of the people in your default contacts list with that name. Arrow to the one you want and press Enter to add them to the To/CC/BCC Line.
The Contacts list is different than the Auto Fill list. The Auto Fill list is created from the history of people you have emailed, and the above keystrokes takes you to the actual Contacts list.
Thx, Albert
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From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Catherine Getchell
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 5:12 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Outlook 2016 and the To Field
Hi Ana,
If you start typing the name and then hit the down arrow, you should see the option for the person you want to email. Then just press enter on that name. I use JAWS though, so I can't speak to how Narrator handles these dropdowns. Hope that helps.
Catherine
On 4/8/20, Ana G <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
> Basically, I think I'm asking how autocomplete works in the recipient
> field for Outlook.
>
>
> We use Outlook at work. In most cases, someone's email address is the
> first letter of the first name followed by the complete last name:
> Charley Brown would be [log in to unmask] When my sighted colleagues
> want to email a person, they type all or part of the last name, then
> choose from a dropdown of some sort.
>
>
> How does that work when you're using a screen reader, specifically
> Narrator?
>
>
> The version of Windows 10 that is used at work is a couple of years
> old,
> 2017 or 2018. I use it with Narrator. Caps+tab is the command you use
> to know where focus is. I point this out because the command is now
> caps+i and because the version of Narrator on the system is buggy
> enough for me to wonder if the problem I'm having is related to the screen reader or not.
>
>
> When I type text into the To field, I don't get spoken feedback with
> the say-line command, but I do get spoken feedback with the
> left/right-arrow keys. So I type the email address. Then when I'm
> done, I left-arrow to make sure I typed it correctly. If I tab to
> something else (e.g., the Subject field), then shift+tab back to the
> To field, I find the email address I typed as a button with the recipient's first and last name.
> What I'm thinking is that I entered an address that is in the
> directory/contacts.
>
>
> How do I access the dropdown my colleagues are using? Do I just
> down-arrow? Is there any spoken feedback with say-line, or do I need
> to left/right-arrow?
>
>
> Any wisdom would be appreciated.
>
>
> Ciao
>
>
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