Hi Tim.  Wow, great points.
I guess my question has always been, God knows everything... I know
this.  He knows us before we were  even born... before the foundation
of theEarth.  So then, he will also know then what we will choose, is
this incorrect?
I know He answers prayers, no matter which way we want him too.
Jen


On 1/4/17, Tim Pruitt <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi Phil, Well, one thing that came to mind was if it was something that
> involved someone's will. I don't feel like God would violate someone's free
> will, so if you were praying about someone needing to do a certain thing or
> act a certain way, even if that's what God wanted, they still have to
> receive the grace to do what He wants them to do. They might still reject
> that idea, despite prayer. Another thing could be if it were a nationwide or
> global thing. I feel that God has people pray for certain things but He
> might really want many more, who either don't discern that He wants their
> prayers or simply refuse to pray. Another thing, and I don't mean this
> legalistically, is if the person you're praying for is willfully involved in
> sin or not. Sometimes I feel that people don't obey the Lord themselves,
> stay in a certain sin without really trying to overcome it, and your prayers
> for them just bounce right off, even if led by God. This is slightly
> different, but I know for me that sometimes I have a lot of intercessory
> prayer dreams. If I give in to a certain sin, they just stop altogether
> until I quit, then they slowly return. Tim
>
>
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> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Phil Scovell
> <[log in to unmask]> </div><div>Date:01/04/2017  4:44 PM  (GMT-05:00)
> </div><div>To: [log in to unmask] </div><div>Subject: Prayer
> Question To Ponder </div><div>
> </div>Here is something to think about for this new year.  In recent times,
> as in a few months ago and a few years ago, I heard the Lord in my thoughts,
> that is, the Holy Spirit, telling me to pray specifically for two different
> things.  They were separated by a couple of years so it wasn’t the same
> request each time.  These were prayers of petition, that is, prayers I was
> called upon  by the Lord to pray and in both cases, pray for a specific
> positive outcome.  For those who do not believe the Holy Spirit has any such
> intercessory ministry he administrates in the Body of Christ today, you
> might as well stop reading now, because I don’t want to offend anyone.  In
> comparison, you all have read the dozens and dozens of prayers I have prayed
> when looking for something I lost.  If you cannot believe those prayers of
> petition, you won’t believe these other two petition to which I am now
> referring.  For the moment, I am not going to tell you what those
> petitionary prayers were specific but I probably will later.  For now, I
> want to focus on the fact, believe it or not, that God spoke to me in my
> thoughts and told me, at two different times, to pray for a specific
> outcome; both of which would have been God’s will to do in both cases.  The
> problem is, neither prayer was answered.  In the case of one, the Lord spoke
> to me 3 weeks in advance of the event the was later to occur and in the
> second prayer, it was a couple of months, praying every day, and both times,
> my will-of-God prayers were not answered.  Would God ask you to pray for
> something He knew He would not answer?  If so, why?  Was it my fault for
> listening to voices in my head?  Could it mean that God cannot answer every
> prayer?  Warning; thin ice.  Oh, sure, the old faithful axiom; God always
> answers prayer; sometimes he just says, no.  Cute, but weak theology to back
> it up.  Anyhow, let’s start here and comment as you wish.  There are no
> trick answers but I’ve been thinking about this experience for sometime and
> thought you’d like to share your own thoughts and concerns about unanswered
> prayer.
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