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Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:59:49 -0500
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I'm not sure who Chris is, and why we should just automatically assume 
that everything he says is correct, but Talk Back is most definitely not 
installed on every Android phone. I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 Active from 
AT&T, and it does not come with Talk Back preinstalled. I know this for 
a fact since I just got two replacement phones, and I had to install 
Talk Back myself.


I think this comes from the thread where someone asked how to bring up 
Talk Back on a phone. Some of the high end Samsung phones come with 
Voice Assistant and not Talk Back, so even though they don't have Talk 
Back preinstalled, you still start the screen reader, Voice Assistant in 
this case, the same way, i.e. by holding two fingers on the screen 
during initial set up.


I can't speak to every phone, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were 
some low end phones where the manufacturer or carrier also chose to 
remove Talk Back. Since we're talking about all Android devices, let's 
also not forget that Talk Back isn't installed on the Android devices 
from Amazon, which again run their own screen reader.


I agree this misinformation needs to stop, and it needs to start with 
statements like the one below where it says that Talk Back is installed 
on every Android device. In fact, whenever you see a black and white 
blanket statement like that, you can pretty much assume it's wrong. Not 
only does the misinformation need to stop, but people also need to stop 
speaking up and talking about things they don't know the answer to, 
especially when you're going to state things you don't know as facts. At 
least precede them with I think or I've heard or better yet, hit the 
delete key and let those who really do know the answer weigh in.



On 04/17/2018 12:49 PM, harry brown wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I posted yesterday, about talkback, and 5 or 6 people wrote back to 
> me, saying that I better check to see if talkback is installed on the 
> phone, because it is not installed on every phone.
>
> I'll say what Chris wonderfully said, the last time this came up, and 
> then I don't want to hear any of you saying this miss information 
> again, do you all understand that?
>
> This is a fact, a fact, talkback is preinstalled, on every Android, 
> *every*, Android device, and I thank Chris for clearing this up, back 
> in March, but I'm just emphasizing it again, talkback, is on *EVERY* 
> Android, device, so let's stop saying that it's not, no more of this, 
> from any of you, and there are 5 or 6 people, not just 1, more than 
> that, and I won't have it any more, and if any of you write me back 
> with nasty comments, I will delete them, but this bull has got to stop 
> on this list, with people giving wrong information about talkback!
>
> Harry
>
>
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