I don’t know about you all, but Christopher always chimes in with the correct information. So, anyone else please quiet down.

Jon

> On Apr 17, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> I'm not sure who Chris is, and why we should just automatically assume that everything he says is correct, but Talk Back is most definitely not installed on every Android phone. I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 Active from AT&T, and it does not come with Talk Back preinstalled. I know this for a fact since I just got two replacement phones, and I had to install Talk Back myself.
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> I think this comes from the thread where someone asked how to bring up Talk Back on a phone. Some of the high end Samsung phones come with Voice Assistant and not Talk Back, so even though they don't have Talk Back preinstalled, you still start the screen reader, Voice Assistant in this case, the same way, i.e. by holding two fingers on the screen during initial set up.
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> I can't speak to every phone, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some low end phones where the manufacturer or carrier also chose to remove Talk Back. Since we're talking about all Android devices, let's also not forget that Talk Back isn't installed on the Android devices from Amazon, which again run their own screen reader.
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> I agree this misinformation needs to stop, and it needs to start with statements like the one below where it says that Talk Back is installed on every Android device. In fact, whenever you see a black and white blanket statement like that, you can pretty much assume it's wrong. Not only does the misinformation need to stop, but people also need to stop speaking up and talking about things they don't know the answer to, especially when you're going to state things you don't know as facts. At least precede them with I think or I've heard or better yet, hit the delete key and let those who really do know the answer weigh in.
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>> On 04/17/2018 12:49 PM, harry brown wrote:
>> Hi all,
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>> I posted yesterday, about talkback, and 5 or 6 people wrote back to me, saying that I better check to see if talkback is installed on the phone, because it is not installed on every phone.
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>> I'll say what Chris wonderfully said, the last time this came up, and then I don't want to hear any of you saying this miss information again, do you all understand that?
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>> This is a fact, a fact, talkback is preinstalled, on every Android, *every*, Android device, and I thank Chris for clearing this up, back in March, but I'm just emphasizing it again, talkback, is on *EVERY* Android, device, so let's stop saying that it's not, no more of this, from any of you, and there are 5 or 6 people, not just 1, more than that, and I won't have it any more, and if any of you write me back with nasty comments, I will delete them, but this bull has got to stop on this list, with people giving wrong information about talkback!
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>> Harry
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