Hi Ana,
I cannot thank you enough, for your report, about your windows 10 7 inch 
tablet, using Narator!
I will be sure not to use Narator in windows 10 in the future!
Nobody should have to wait 20 seconds to hear speech after pressing a key!
Thanks again for this valuable info!
Harry
On 9/24/2015 12:46 AM, Ana G wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I finally found Dropbox on my windows 10 tablet. After a couple of 
> weeks, I broke down and installed NVDA, and as soon as I did, I found 
> the All Apps button, so I found Dropbox amid all my apps.
>
> The Narrator experience was interesting. I have to admit that I wasn't 
> very systematic about learning narrator commands, so I don't feel I 
> can say that Narrator is or isn't usable. I just know a few of the 
> basic commands, including scrolling, learned a couple more, and 
> figured that would get me by, but ... well ... no. for example, using 
> NVDA, I find the All apps button by pressing the Start button to get 
> to the search box, then arrowing up once or down about six times. when 
> I was using Narrator, I never found that button with the keyboard, and 
> yes, the first thing I tried was arrowing up once. My lack of 
> familiarity with Narrator hit me hardest when I dealt with tool bars. 
> I'd get stuck in them and forget how to get out.
>
> Exploring the screen is a little disorienting. I know from my desktop, 
> which has a touch screen, where things are located, but since I don't 
> have to locate them very often, I don't have to think about it. When I 
> was using Narrator, I sometimes found it quicker to get to a button by 
> touching the screen, so I had to try to understand where things were 
> in relation to each other, not so much as it concerned buttons, but as 
> it concerned the different windows.
>
> The most annoying thing to deal with was the sluggishness of Narrator 
> or probably the voices. Whenever I would launch an app, I'd go through 
> a very long period of silence, maybe 20 to 30 seconds, so I wasn't 
> sure whether the tablet or the TTS was slow. Speech seemed to be a 
> more likely culprit because, once the "app launched," everything 
> worked fine. Then I'd change screens, and I'd have to wait another 20 
> seconds. As I spent more time with the tablet, these pauses became 
> more and more frustrating.
>
> Narrator's sluggishness also interfered with working with the touch 
> screen. Generally, swiping worked better than exploring. when I ran my 
> finger over the screen to locate controls, Narrator tended to forget 
> to announce items, especially smaller ones. But swiping wasn't ideal 
> either. For instance, when I pressed the Start button and started 
> swiping to find the All Apps button, the first thing I heard was 
> Account picture, then an item, then Account Picture again, then 
> another item, then Account Picture, etc.
>
> I was starting to gear up for returning the tablet when I installed 
> NVDA. The experience is so much better. I'm finding things where and 
> how I expect, and the tablet is surprisingly responsive. It's slower 
> than my desktop, of course, but it might be a little faster than my 
> little netbook.
>
> One thing I'll mention is that all the information I found on the web 
> said that desktop mode isn't available on tablets smaller than 8 
> inches. I bought a 7-inch tablet because I hadn't read that yet, so 
> when I came across that tidbit, I panicked. My HP Stream does go into 
> desktop mode. Press enter on Settings, which is near All Apps, and 
> press enter on Tablet Mode On to toggle it to Off.
>
> Just letting everyone know.
>
> Ciao
>
>
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