For gmail they are 995 for the pop and 465 for the SMTP Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Jeff Kenyon <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Hi I was just wondering what settings are necessary for hotmail that one would need to work with an external mail client in particular the Apex? all VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List. Archived on the World Wide Web at http://listserv.icors.org/archives/vicug-l.html Signoff: [log in to unmask] Subscribe: [log in to unmask] VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List. Archived on the World Wide Web at http://listserv.icors.org/archives/vicug-l.html Signoff: [log in to unmask] Subscribe: [log in to unmask]