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Well said David.  Keep doing what you're doing, and dam the torpedoes.  Opinions are alittle like anus', everybody's got one.  

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From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 5:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Regarding the Lack of Screen Reader Accessibility in Kaspersky Products

I initially was not going to respond to the individuals who not only didn't feel they would benefit from what I'm trying to do but to those who actually are trying to discourage me from this advocacy. I assure you that this will be my first and last response. It may generate some sympathizers but it likely won't gain me many supporters. I don't care.

I am frankly amazed at the individuals who almost seem to have contempt regarding my wish to work with one of the top antivirus programs in this industry and make it accessible. Suppose that Microsoft Office, which many consider to be the best office suite, was not very accessible and Microsoft didn't seem to care, a scenario which I'm sure we all agree, is thankfully not the case. If one of you were trying to work with them to make it work with your screen reader, how would you feel if I said, Oh, just use LibreOffice or OpenOffice and count your losses. When your beloved iPhones no longer work with your favorite chat apps or your precious games you wouldn't hesitate to write to the developer and report bugs. You would expect your accessibility issues to be resolved and resolved quickly. If the developer doesn't listen you won't hesitate to send them tweets, emails and petitions until your favorite game gets fixed. Oh, and don't give me this nonsense about Kaspersky being in Russia to justify your contempt. How convenient for you that Apple, Microsoft, Amazon and Google are all located in the United States. You know bloody well that if Apple was located in Moscow, rather than Cupertino, you wouldn't hesitate to scream at them as loudly as you do now when their accessibility falls short, and well you should. You demand that your phones and tablets work with the latest apps which sometimes do nothing but provide entertainment but yet some of you are so willing to put up with substandard and barely adequate solutions for keeping your precious computers safe. I just can't wrap my head around some of the reactions I'm reading from this as well as another list regarding what I'm trying to do. Blind people are so good about expecting and demanding access to every program, facility and service, which is admirable and commendable. Yet, when it comes to computer security, some of you are not only complacent but you have the audacity and gall to actually discourage someone from engaging in the very advocacy you yourself engage in when something you want is denied to you. It's shameful. Look, I'm all for consumer choice. If some of you want to use Windows Defender and if that solution makes you happy then, by all means, do so. I won't stop you or stand in your way. There are those who engage in advocacy in areas that I may not be able or willing to assist but I at least support that person for trying to do some good which will benefit not only that person but the community as well.
I also realize that the individual to whom I initially responded wrote to me offlist. If any of you wants to tell me that I should stop or that I'm wasting my time I can't stop you from expressing yourselves on this list but refrain from sending your discouraging and useless emails privately to me in my inbox. I won't respond and I'll just block you as I don't have the time for it.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my Web site WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 4/2/2017 8:54 PM, Guerra Access Technology Training LLC wrote:
David, I agree with another listers assessment.
You should walk away and consider yourself better off.



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